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Guys, another good thing to do when a woman writes you and you start a good dialog is to ask them what their favorite "Club" is and how often they go there....Also ask her where her favorite restaraunt is located.......If she says she is "Religious" ask her where she attends........Ask about local sites as in museums,castles, things that are readily available to document via the web.... 2 years ago I had a real one on and documented all of those types of things...Everything was correct... I think she was really married and was looking into a relationship via the net and was probably caught by her husband, because our letters were not precomposed ones..In fact she sent me a card through snail mail.....Ask her if she has a "pet name".....So many things are available to you these days that a man/ woman should never be taken....

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Comment from TD

You will always lose money when you think with your penis and not with your brain!!!

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Comment from ppantherp

Interesting comment-R./// Added to which I would repeat what I have posted here before. ANYONE who communicates with any 'lady' by internet, should apply a strict pattern of rules. 1) Ask her for her full name and address. 2) Get her phone number (If she says she does not have one- she should at least have a friend who does have a phone. I have it on good authority that most Soviet people DO have phones now)) Arrange to call her a prearranged time(Don't worry about cost-there are very cheap phone cards you can buy over internet) 3) Ask info about her parents & siblings. 4) Ask info about her education 5) ask about her work. 6) her birthday. Then WRITE ALL THIS INFO AT TOP OF FIRST PRINTED EMAIL FROM HER. 7) Make a note of ALL IP addresses she uses in ALL email from her.//-- So why do all of the above?!-- well not many scammers are well organized, and as the saying goes-- 'A liar should have an excellent memory'!-- In subsequent emails you can ask her about her birthday-or they may even volunteer that they just celebrated a birthday. So CHECK ALL SUBSEQUENT INFO AGAINST THAT ALREADY PROVIDED! I have caught out may scammers this way i.e. Birthday noted as 23rd April 1970. She writes on 16th June 2007 "I celebrated my birthday yesterday" --EH??!! -Me --"How old were you?" Her--"I was 31"--Er DA!! WRONG--37 should be. Scammer!! Also, scammers often start with an 'innocent/'clean' IP address. then become careless and use a 'known scammers' IP address in email 3/4/5 etc// So compose your own 'pre written emails'. You can 'set traps for them', by asking certain questions in later emails--to check her 'given facts' about her education' parents, siblings, etc etc. The scammers will simply NOT remember what lies they have told you in first email!!///I have to say that after bitter experience of much time wasting by these morons, that now 'they are ALL Guilty until proven innocent!'--And the age old advice still applies--'Think with your BIG head, NOT your Little head!!' //oh and NEVER send money to a photo!!

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Comment from Special Operations Executive kicked Robin in the B

Oy Roamer's taken over the Batcave! WTF? Why aren't you in IT? or CIA?LOL Anyway I have only been on this site about 9 months.Glad you posted it again.

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Comment from Roamer's taken over the Batcave

Hey SOE, I posted that about 2 years ago...I had found it again this morning and decided to post it again,,,,

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Comment from Special Operations Executive

Holy Shit Batman,have you been in the Bat Cave all this time?Us good folks of Gotham City sure could have used this info against The Scammer a long time ago.I'm a Luddite & even I could understand it.Great weapon! Oh yeah Wayne,thanks for that,new I could rely on you!Great Rack - the kind you don't mind being hauled over or under,sideways,down!

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Comment from Batman

First, managing the large number of scams that are necessary in order to identify a victim is difficult. The solution is to use a commercial software application that has the following characteristics: 1) The Scammer needs an e-mail client that can manage large amounts of e-mail from many different e-mail accounts (using the same e-mail account for communicating with many victims can be problematic since once identified as a Scammer, there are enough Blacklists that the e-mail account will be readily recognizable). 2) The Scammer needs an e-mail client that can sort messages from different e-mail accounts into threads do that the dialogue over time can be managed – this allows "customization" of the communication with the victim to help avoid suspicion (not answering questions or ignoring important information can tip off a victim that something is wrong. 3) The Scammer needs a way to reduce the amount of effort required to communicate with all their victims. Second, as the scale of the scamming activity increases, the Scammer will have a problem using a web e-mail service: 1) E-mail service providers, once aware of a scam, can involve law enforcement agencies and can identify other victims and send out warnings – the Scammer needs to minimize, as much as possible, traces of their scamming activities. 2) Most people would never consider using an e-mail application from an Internet Café (which many Scammers claim to be using) since all of their mail would be left on the computer they were using! If someone is using an e-mail application of any kind (Outlook Express, Outlook, etc.) while stating that they are using an Internet Café warning lights and a siren should be going off. Now that we have identified the characteristics, we can discuss two simple tests that you can do yourself: First, as soon as possible, ask the person that you are corresponding with where they live. With this information, you can inspect the e-mail message header (most e-mail clients will show this information as "message header" or "show original message") – the part that you are looking for looks like this: Received: from 192.168.0.4 (29.214.dialup.mari-el.ru [195.161.214.29]) (authenticated bits=0) by mailc.rambler.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jBHJSM2V039983 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:29:30 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:26:48 +1100 From: scammer X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.01) Step one is to find out where the message actually came from – for this example I am using an e-mail where the woman claimed to be using an Internet Café in Cheboksary, Russia. I enter the following URL into my web browser: http://www.ripe.net/perl/whois Next, I enter the IP address from the line that starts with "Received:" which is: 195.161.214.29 And enter it into the "Search for" field on the web page, which returns the following results: person: Nikolay Nikolaev address: Volgatelecom Mari El branch address: Sovetskaya 138 address: 424000 Yoshkar-Ola address: Russia MariEl Republic phone: +7 8362 421549 phone: +7 8362 664435 fax-no: +7 8362 664151 e-mail: nnb@relinfo.ru nic-hdl: NN-RIPE source: RIPE # Filtered I am expecting the address to be Cheboksary and Chuvash Republic – I am not expecting the address to be Yoshkar-Ola and MariEl Republic! Actually, I already had a warning flag in the e-mail header: Received: from 192.168.0.4 (29.214.dialup.mari-el.ru [195.161.214.29]) If the e-mail actually came from Cheboksary, I would expect to see the following: person: Medukov J Alexandr address: 428000 Cheboxary Lenin av 2a phone: +7 8352 662912 e-mail: master@chtts.ru nic-hdl: MJA4-RIPE source: RIPE # Filtered How did I get this information? Simple, find a government or business URL in the city you are interested in and enter it into Ripe. You may need to identify the IP address by using the PING command – this will turn a text URL into an IP address that can be searched on Ripe. I will not go into this more, since this topic wanders off topic a bit. The important thing to note is that the city and republic do not match what was expected – there are a lot of people on this and other web site forums that can assist you if you need more help. The second test is to examine the message header and look for "X-Mailer:" – in our example we find the following: X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.01) This means that the person sending me the e-mail from a supposed Internet Café is using an e-mail client application. By now, "Red Alert" should be flashing! Why would someone use an e-mail client from an Internet Cafe? Well, most normal people would not – so this is very likely a scam! Now that I have covered how you can test your own e-mails for scamming attempts, I want to return to the technology topic. The Bat! (also known as TB! And TB) – I will use TB! From this point on – is an e-mail client application (a program that runs on a personal computer) that is marketed towards companies and individuals that need to manage large volumes of e-mail. The OECD refers to a category of company as a Small to Medium-Sized Enterprise – an SME for short. Smaller SME's often have very limited budgets and cannot afford specialized Sales and Marketing, Customer Service, and other forms of Customer Relationship Management (CRM) software. Our laboratory supports a group company that helps smaller SME's adapt TB! for their business. I mention this because TB! Has been associated with both Spamming and Scamming – the product is legitimate and is a valuable tool for many businesses; unfortunately, the same features that make TB! effective and efficient for companies, also provide a similar benefit to Scammers. There are two features that Scammers find particularly useful: 1) TB! supports a sophisticated macro programming language and a sophisticated ability to manage templates – predefined text that can be dynamically changed by the macro programming language to respond to e-mails. This allows a technically competent person to create a Scamming system that has a high degree of automation while at the same time allowing the scammer to add custom text in predefined areas within the template. The more people that the Scammer can correspond with, the more likely a victim can be found. 2) TB! is designed to work with multiple e-mail servers simultaneously. This makes it very easy for the Scammer to use numerous "dummy" e-mail accounts for Scamming unsuspecting victims (TB! downloads and erases the e-mails from each e-mail server making it harder for investigators to track what was happening). An e-mail client such as Outlook Express or Outlook Professional and most web e-mail clients such as Yahoo and Hotmail do not offer this level of sophistication. TB! is also very affordable at less than USD $60.00 – well within the means of the typical Scammer. TB! is a product of RIT Labs, which is based in Moldova. This article was produced by the Enterprise Systems Architecture Laboratory (ESAL) located in Stockholm, Sweden. Reuse of this information free of royalty is hereby granted providing that this notice is included in any reproductions.

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Comment from Chief Halftown

Her pictures are at these websites: http://forum.phun.org/showthread.php?t=209375 http://pazitiva.net/18/2762-chastnye-foto-jetojj-devicy.html http://www.intertet.org/?post_id=234931

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Comment from John 42

Gotta be a porn star or close.I went to scammerlist and in the background on the left you can see a Victoria's Secret Bag.Come on Wayne put that dirty mind to work you should have her in 1 of your many collection of movie's.

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Comment from kitzell5

yep, Wayne is the master for these ones, if anyone can find any titty pics of the large pillows it's him lol. ye know, i dunno wot's goin on wi this site these days, but i posted a scammer just over 3 weeks ago an she's still not on the list. wots goin on admin?? i've got another one to post but when will it get shown? it's good to know about these things before some poor slob gets ripped off for thousands not after.

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Comment from tom

well done wayne and thank you.The body to die for ,but the mind of a scumbag.

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Comment from Wayne

If you want to see her tits go to http://www.scammerlist.com/

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Comment from HellHammer

You know K5, I already noticed several times that many Russians have a level of studies extremely high, but they reproduce simply what they know. Frankly speaking, they do not have any inventiveness. try to ask the same questions but at differently scammers, if it's the scammer wich answer, (and not the bat), you will see, they all will answer you the same answer. It's strange but I noticed that several times.

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Comment from kitzell5

sry guys ... i got there first. them bazookas damn near choked me lol. seriously tho, won't these scammin asswipes ever learn? change the pics, seein the same ones all the time is boring .. and a dead giveaway that it's a scam.

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Comment from HellHammer

SOE - Haaaa in the bath with two big bazookas of this kind full my hands, Holaaaa SOE, you make me dream now :))))

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Comment from Special Operations Executive

HH I think you would call these the Big Bazookas.And I know the song she sings in the spa bath "Islands In The Stream" with apologies to Dolly Parton.

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Comment from tom

soe, you are right, she was on here before.

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Comment from HellHammer

Again a big caliber, I see. :)

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Comment from ROZAIMAN

HI VERY INTRESTING ABOUT YOU THIS MY MAIL AHMAD_ROZAIMANMANAP@YAHOO.COM I FROM MALAYSIA KUALA LUMPUR AND I WANT MEET WITH YOU FOR DATING SERIUOLY

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Comment from Special Operations Executive

Hey Roamer, don't hold back! Say what you really feel! This scamming whore was on here about 3 months or so ago.Nice rack though.Wayne, oh Wayne!!

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Comment from Roamer

Looks like a real slut !!http://www.stop-scammers.com/scammer.asp?id=5250 http://russianscammers.net/memberid/139847 Close Liudmila Banahovskaia Icq : 384063595 E-mail : kiss_a86@list.ru Details First Name: Liudmila Location: Moldova, Chisinau Age: 22 Birth Date: 08-05-1986 click to see click to see click to see More photos of this person General (7) Letter 1 Website on singles.ru and several on the Russian sites: http://singles.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=205437139. We had contact over a long time. First we should meet in St Petersburg, I sent her money for for ticket. She had sent me a scanned copy of a false airline ticket! (Picture attached! This airline with these flights does not exist!) She never appeared, but later we met on internet. She said that she was very unhappy, she wanted to cheat me, but she had come to really care for me and wanted to meet me. She sent several letters asking for money, and I sent her money. I went to Chisinau to meet her, then she was not there because she "had had to go to the countryside for her grandmother's funeral". I should visit again, but when i sent her 250 euro one week before I should go, she disappeared. This girl is extremely clever, she makes you really believe she wants to meet you without exaggerating. She chats in a very nice and friendly way on internet, she uses ICQ. She is very dangerous.... She sends a lot of pictures, includeing some nude and seminaked. It turns out that these pictures are already on websites on internet. Whether she has sent them to different guys who then posted on internet or whether she found the pictures on internet, I do not know. I don't know if she is the girl on the pictures. When speaking with her on the phone i often felt that the voice belonged to a woman older than 22 years..? Her pictures are at these websites: http://forum.phun.org/showthread.php?t=209375 http://pazitiva.net/18/2762-chastnye-foto-jetojj-devicy.html http://www.intertet.org/?post_id=234931 (here she is the 4. girl when scrolling down) All together, over 4 months she managed to receive 3000 euro.... Most of it was asked for during chats, here are some letters... Letters: 1. "Hello! I am sorry for yerstoday u had problems with my net i sent you sms and hope you reseved! So Flight at 25.11.2008 at 17.30 and arrive at 19.15 at SPB tickets two way cost 240 euro and i will take some bottles of our good wine and if you canhelp me about 30 eoru for my internet i tired with this one at all if you will send me 300 euro i will be very glad and thankfull to you!!!" my data for transfer western union : i sendind you dome my foto and with my best glf and cousin! Bye kiss you and waiting from you message"! 2. "Hello!!!! I sending you a ticket to you be shure that i will come!!! I tald you i am very serios and interested in our meet!I always do all that i promise! I was in Orange office and that i know that sim card coat 20 usd but for roaming i must have deposit 50 usd and 1 min cost there 2 dollars.And i have one problem i must show at our custom min 300 usd to be entered becouse i must show that i have money to live there and not goinh like prostitute becouse many our girls working there:(" 3. "Hello,my dear!!!! How are you ? how was your party? i was thinking all night about you!!! You will kill me i spend yerstosay 160 usd :( and i am so shy and at friday i spend 50 on flowers to my mother birthday.i am so sorry ! Today i will start pack my bagage and i need buy some wine for us! I am realy sorru that its happened but i was so glad that i will come to you after 2 days that i was a little drunk (but i was a good girl).So i think thst you will not be sat at me and help me to come! Last time transfer please and meet me in airport i am so much waiting it!!! Kiss you!!" 4. "send me please monday toll 13 o clock 250 euro and all ill be ok!! Yerstoday i wasnt club staied at home but problems with internet and i havent money anymore to send you sms sorry it was last about money :( hope tomorrow morning i will have sms with code kisses!!"

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