Comment from Tenedor
hi guys.
at the moment she is emailing me. I pretend i dont know about the scam... just to see where she goes this time
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ssspokulina@rambler.ru new email adres for this lady
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Naive - You saw just and you made an excellent research.
I had not seen yet this photo, front. thanks for having forwarded it to me.
This time, the two girls resemble each other rather extremely. Perhaps that it's two sister.
I also located them in Yoshkar-Ola.
In the past, the scammers which hide behind these profiles used photos found on the left and on the right.
The profiles of the photos, (of the models I think), are not credible and surely that very few people bit with the hook.
They have to change method and to find photos of true girls.
You know what I think?
I think that it is about a man who takes the photos.
In my opinion, it is a rather pretty young man who charms these young ladies and who uses their photographs.
Obviously, they are several behind all that.
And, obviously, I can make only some assumptions, I can nothing confirm unfortunately.
You did beautiful work. I hope that you will be able to obtain more information.
Me, I do not have any more any contact with them and I do not find any more new profiles which correspond to them.
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Ok I think this girl actually resides in Yoshkar-ola. I've managed to find photos from the "Chavain Boulevard" in Yoshkar-ola. It has similar pavingstones, Lamp posts and what I believe are trash bins/cans as in one of scam photos. IP address lookup is pointing to Yoshkar-ola mostly. So this is sort of a breakthru discovery. It doesn't mean she is behind this, but...
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The eyes resemble each other? a bit yes now that you mention it. Clearly not the same girl so you mean they could be like related or something. Like two sisters, a family thing perhaps heh:-)
I have this closeup where she is with another girl
http://www.jl-illustration.dk/
scam_photo.jpg
Do you perhaps recognise it? Clearly from the same series of photos where she is dressed in white shirt and blue jeans and sunglasses. If you know what I am refering to. The funny thing is the file is named I and Olga, where here she is profiled as Olga herself. But that because she is Snezhana to me ofcourse. Let me know when you have seen the photo so I can remove it again.
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Naive - Indeed, I do not believe that it is this girl who telephones. :]
They must be several people behind all these profiles.
I asked for his phone number also and she answered me that she did not have a cell phone! It is then that it called me with this number +74957851102
I asked for explanations and she said to me that she called me of a cabin of telephone!!!
Strange no? :] The voice seemed to me between 40 and 50 years but, I can nothing confirm.
A voice on vocal box is deformed enough.
It is simply an assumption which I make.
Ha yes, a thing still, it was with the profile according to whether I received the phone call: http://anti-scam.org/scammer/2805.html For this one, I sent a wrong number. :] Send these clowns to the office of Western Union, you will see, it is amusing! :]
For the moment, I do not have any more a contact with these scammers.
You will certainly find still much site on which are indicated these scammers.
They already used many different profiles but the phone number is always the same one.
Since time that I know them, (2005), they would have already being stopped.
I have the impression that the authorities make nothing.
Still a thing, if you to look at this one and the #2805, you will see that the eyes resemble each other.
As they is the most credible photographs, they must come from the same area.
I will really like to see the head of that which is behind the camera!
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HellHammer - 40 to 50 years? well we can be positive that it is probably not this one speaking then:-) I've found this one under a new last name here:http://russian-dating-scams.the-world-in-focus.com/?p=1310. In the last mail she wrote, she will call me when she have saved for a telephone card.
It was a respondse letter, to where I brought up the phone subject myself. This could indicate they actually read the letters. But there is also some that is not being answered directly. Some of the more suspicious questions if you would.
I guess the main thing that leaves me puzzled about this one, is the amount of photos circulating. I've personally received 17 through the correspondense I have going. including some I havent seen else where on any scam or dating sites. Besides I have collected 15 others from the net from various places.
So how do you get 32 photos from another person that isn't made public (which nothing indicates so far) if you're not in contact with that person somehow? Ah but we already been around this. Just can't leave it. We'll see what happens.
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Naive - Ho yes, I forgot to say to you.
She speaks very well in French and English.
With a very strong Russian accent.
I found that its voice resembled a lady between 40 to 50 years.
But on simple vocalbox, it is difficult to know.
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Naive - To be honest, I let sound my GSM and she left me several messages. :]She only will start to telephone in the last moments.When they will believe that you will send money. .......... Obviously! :]By e-mail, I had said to them that I received their Russian messages and that I did not understand. (obviously I received the English email:] ).
Therefore, I said to him that I was going to send the copy of the Western Union sheet by the post office to the address that they had given me.
They started to panic, they changed three or four time of email and a girl with telephoned several times on my gsm by leaving long messages.They are very stupid to say the truth. I had fun with them.
Obviously, my phone number .................. it is a simple phonecard which I threw since! :]
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HellHammer - I have a bit of funny question. What did you actually talk about, when you spoke to the lady over the phone from this scammer group? How was her tone?
Anything like in the mails? If you don't want to share I understand.
It's just to be prepared if it should happen to me.
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Naive - Yes, you saw just.
It is not advisable to give an address email on this site.
I gave once an address which I created especially to put in liaison with a person of this site.
By chance that functioned but I did not delay has to receive emails with viruses.
It is necessary to acknowledge that these clowns are really stupid’s because they tried to send to me old viruses of ...... three months!!
I believe that it is not necessary that I sees the photographs which you have, I suppose that they is the same ones as I have, but I think that It is probable that these clowns try to employ them again later.
I do not know if the girl who is in photograph here is conscious that its photographs are on this site.
I can nothing confirm obviously but I do not think.
It is possible also that it belongs to the swindle.
For the moment, it is impossible to determine it.
There remains a chance that this girl would be real and that she would discover her photographs on this site.
At this time, it is probable that it makes a deposition and one would discover that which makes the photographs, but……………..wait and see!
Personally, I am in liaison with true girls Russian for the moment and I can you ensuring that the conversation is completely different from that of these cretins.
The true Russian girl speaks completely normally and do not fall in love as of the first glance. :)
I had some incorrect words, a few times ago, about the Russian girls and I am in the obligation to note that the true Russian girls are of a kindness impressive.it is simply necessary to find the true girl.
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I completely understand.
"it would be useful to find them. That would lead us directly to this one which takes the photos"
Is that something you're working on? Well in all seriousness if you ever find out who this particular girl is, let me know.
Perhaps you would like to see all the photos I have of this one so far? unfortunately we can't exchange e-mails here.
I don't care about all the others, I've got my mind set on this one only. Well at least till I find me a real girl:-)
Not that I think this one should be interested in dating or anything.
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Naive - It is true that the photos of this one are more credible.
Often, the scammers which hide behind this profile used photographs of this one for example: http://www.anti-scam.org/scammer/3122.html.
But, obviously, this kind of photos is not very credible and the majority of people locate immediately swindles.
Therefore, they used more credible photographs thereafter like this one and again this one “http://www.anti-scam.org/scammer/2805.html “and certainly much of others again.
I used some easy ways to make them call me but, as my easy ways function always at the present time, I cannot say some more on this site because, the scammers also read the comments. :]
I do not know if the girls in photos are accomplices or not but it would be useful to find them.
That would lead us directly to this one which takes the photos.
I do not use an address validates either. :-)
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HellHammer - I see. I can see from the other profiles that you talk about locations. Well all free of prejudices I'd say the locations you get a glimpse of in some of the photos, the look and dress of this one looks kind of russian or eastern europe-like in some way.
How you got to chat with some of them? getting phonenumber etc.?
Do you have a valid address too?
Most likely a third person in the scammer group who just picks up the phone. But hey I wouldn't know anything only from what I've read. I'm all new to this stuff. Wether it's one of the girls they use, well you can only guess. I don't speak any french anyway:-)
Just my native and the english you read here, a bit of german too:-)
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Naive - He or she told me the same thing; I do not have a camera etc….
There are certainly several people who are behind all these profiles.
The last announced profile of this scammer is http://www.anti-scam.org/scammer/3157.html
I left several comments detailed on this profile. The girl who telephone speaks French very well
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That would be: snezhook@rambler.ru
Yes but who is the photographer?:-)
It could be just some local girls.
"She" mention in the letters that the photos I receieve
are not new, but new "she" can not easily make cause "she" do not have camera. Don't know what that tells us. But if they do provide all new ones or even one by request, I think it is safe to say that she is involved somehow. With or without her knowledge.
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Naive - I remember this pseudo “Snezhana”
It is the same one as I discovered on the site meetic.
You have a photograph as a more than me, I have only 22 photographs! :]
I gathered a consequent number of profiles, (with the assistance of some friends and some comments found on this site), that these scammers uses.
Usually, these scammers use photos of model etc….
But it is necessary to acknowledge that the photos of this girl and this one, http://agencyscams.com/Girls/NatalyaLoskutova.html, are more credible.
I can certify to you that it is same scammers which hide behind these profiles.
I do not know if these girls belong to the scammers or Not.
Personally, I think that it would be advisable to turn to the one which takes the photos!!!
Could you communicate to me, the Email address which you had of this girl?
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The comment below was from me:-)
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HellHammer - I think I have collected around 23 photos of this one now plus I have seen others. It's the amount of photos and differences of them that makes me suspect too, but you might know more than me obviously. But that is also all I have. I'm not experienced in this thing, but I have correspondence going right now with one called Snezhana, same girl used in photos. IP first pointed to Mari-El but last mail I think led to Netherlands. If one can locate the scammer group behind
it should be possible to find out.
You should think someone needed to inform the girl if she is unaware of what is going on.
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Naive - several elements make it possible to think that this girl is implied but it is too early to affirm that at 100%
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So is the girl on photos involved or not?
Or are they stolen.
Is it possible to found out who she really is?:-)
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fraud
to top ^Comment from A practicing restraint Roamer
Por favor, mon sewer.......I'm saving that excessive training for the "He who shall remain nameless one"!!! And you won't have to wait long for my restraint...Hey, it's the season for giving, sir...
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Roamer once again I am glad to see that the sensitivity training we got for you last Christmas is not going to waste Ha Ha.
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Dameon - Indeed, I do not release my preys easily.I do not have any respect, any feelings and any pity for these clowns.I hate this kind of girl!
They will not forget me of so early!!
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So Dameon, when are you coming to Florida??? The snow's a fallin !!!And it's going up to the 80's again today....Hey, what's a snow shovel ??? I forget.........I bet Forrest has been using his already!!!!
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HH - I think you are becoming a scammers worst nightmare.
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I believe you are right friend.You did your homework on this one,Awesome job! Eddy - I came across another email,that might be associated with this one.'lonely.star29@yahoo.com' the name spelled different though 'kislicyna' Claims to live in Joshkar Ola,Russia.
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This scammer with a direct ratio with “Natalya Loskutova” #2805 and “Irina Bourdina” #2977 it employs also the names of:
Natalya Vasileva, Tatyana Seriogyna and certainly of others still!
The phone number that I had of “Natalya Loskutova” is: +7 495 78 51.102 (identically the same one as that of “Irina Bourdina”.
I can confirm that this girl speaks English correctly and also the French with a rather marked Russian accent.
X-mailer: The Bat! (v3.85.02) Professional
Affiliation: Internet - Cafe "STATUS"
I receive X-Originating-IP: [81.19.66.30]
But I often receive: from [128.0.0.133] (unknown [85.17.105.43]) located at “Amsterdam” in “North Holland” and time in time: Received: from 2-vtoroy.mshome.net (unknown [77.40.68.181]), located with: city: “Krasnodar” area: “Krasnodarskiy Kray”
All the remainder is the same one.
to top ^Comment from Dameon
Talk about going for the "girl next door" look.
to top ^Comment from James
I like pussies,OOPS!! I mean pussy cats.Cute though!
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