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Comment from the manor

ya shes still at it ive been egging her on for awhile now who ever it is is a sucker and i hope to waste more of their time by telling her i sent the money go pick it up haha
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Comment from Anonymous

Thanks for posting this whoever started it... I am currently in contact with this person... All the same pics, same email, says her name is "Svetlana Tolcachewa" from "Kamyzyak" near the "Astrakhan" area...
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Comment from Wayne

Hey! Goat howse it goin...ha!ha!ha! Just dropped in to see if'n you was still running around the traps scamming. So see ya still at it you m efer. Or maybe youse a father efer. Ha!ha!ha! - he!he!he!
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Comment from Daniel Broxton Sr.

oh I also forgot she also gave me her "home address" but my letter to her did not make it because of the mail in russia,and like others she also sent me a pic of her with a pic of me. she is very good very sexy and i love her so yall stay away from her cause she is my wife haaahaaahaaaahaaahaha
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Comment from Daniel Broxton Sr.

Her new e-mail is ampole@mail.ru and damn i wish she was real there is no need to be bitter if you did not send her any money but I would love to know how much money she makes and if she has to pay anyone else like a pimp or the russian mafia does anyone here know?
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Comment from Daniel Broxton Sr.

Ya I too have fallen in love with "Tanya" Did not send money but would have cause she is very good at sounding like your soul mate I say with out embarssment that she has broken my heart
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Comment from Dameon

Irina, you are back. I want you to know, and I mean this with all sincerity, you are without a doubt the hottest Rock and Roll chick I have ever seen. I was honored when you had a go at scamming me last year. I would love for you to be on the back of my Hog, cruising I95! But you cannot bring your goats!
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Comment from Irina

Goats you all.no win nothing
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Comment from Dameon

The battle is over
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Comment from freddyboy

August 21/06..even after all this time since the first time this scam was posted I still enjoy coming back here to it to see how the battle continues. This scam reall struck a nreve somewhere in somebody because it has sure caused an uproar and a lot of tense and bitter feelings.
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Comment from Wayne

So it is about 10 days now with no reply from the goat pretending to be Irina - and as for Irina "wayne no can prove it" Ha!, prove what Irina, that you are a fake - well I have done that - he!he!he! (snicker snicker snicker)
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Comment from Dameon

What is even more interesting is that there are also pix of her with the girl posted in profile # 1570 as well as pictures of a few other of the women that have been posted on the scammer blacklists. And one of them is an actual scammer! I know this because I got her to send me a picture of herself holding one of the photos of me that I had sent her. But this one appears to be Russia's version of Paris Hilton. A very nice lifestyle. And as for you Irina; you have been proven to be a fake! Now what do you have to say? And Tony - you are full of it also!
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Comment from Wayne

Just another post - if you want pics of the real chick who owns these photos definitely go to her real web site - there are absolutely 100's of pages this chick has got, showing off her sexy self - and she is sexy - www.liveinternet.ru/photo/_nagval_/
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Comment from Wayne

Okay more update - Mafia likes to dupe all of us - but here is the web site of the real girl who owns these photos - The pics are stolen from a real girl, her name is Valeriya and she lives in Odessa, Ukraine: http://www.liveinternet.ru/photo/_nagval_/ I have been doing some checking with a friend in Russia - mafia steals girls photos etc, and advertises on porn sites that you can have this girl for $80.00 - but when you get to the brothel only thing that is there are dragons...
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Comment from Dameon

Wayne - This chick came after me once also. Most likely it is an Ivan using stolen photos. But I am interested in knowing if you found her on that Putana site yet?
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Comment from I want Irina

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Comment from Alex

Hi mine Alexander!! Is happy to see your letter. For a today already second time I come into the Internet of cafe. For the first time your letter was not also I left therefrom, has thought, that you will write hardly later and were right. Alexander, write to me more often, well? My darling I has made the visa and the passport for travel abroad and is ready to arrive to you, but I do not have not enough money to buy tickets! My darling you can send me this money?? p.s serious ladys doesnt ask for money d.s
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Comment from Wayne

Okay guys go here and see all of "cold eyes" profiles, she's got more profiles than months in a year... http://www.russian-detective.com/black_lists/individ/individual_scammers3.htm
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Comment from Anonymous

Come on guys, only one more comment and we are up to 100. Then we can all go and get a life!
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Comment from Anonymous

Well you know that if she ask for something it is your decision to send it now everyone knows there are scammers on the internet and i know this first hand because i fell for it the first time around never will again.Now with this woman i will say that a man would just about do anything for her but you do not have to send money and be out anything if you only watch what is going on.Well i hope that her search will maybe what she is looking for in life because life is short and this is not the way to to spend life i think if you look at what you have you will find that you are more gifted then what you think and you are not showing it this way. Thank You
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Comment from Wombat

Irina,ummmm,it seems that many of the comments here are in your favour so you may take some comfort from that aspect. I am curious how you did find this site and this posting in the beginning ?? Anyway, young woman, lick your wounds and move on. Why don't you email the Web Administrator and request that your posting is removed....end of story.
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Comment from Irina

Wombat there is no more I say. I no on such site. See wayne no can prove. It lie all.
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Comment from Sicilian

The term Putana is used by older Italians to refer to a woman of ill-repute.
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Comment from Wombat

For the blokes in the dark...a "putana" is a "demoness".Just thought you'd like to know. Hey, we are nearly up to 100 comments on this "back-water" posting. Hey, Irina,it's abou time you put another 2 bobs worth in to keep things going !! :)
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Comment from Wayne

Hello... I'm Back... an enterprising scammer buster from ukraine pointed me to the "Putana" sites - it is interesting - I have seen some very "honest" Russian/Ukraine babes on these sites selling their pussy - yet on Honest Russian Ukraine sites there are some of these putanas telling us all how honest they are.... I had one chick writing to me professing to be a virgin, and here she is $80 bucks for an hour on a putana site... Bless you all for hanging in there and Irina soon as I find your putana shots I will definitely post them here for the boys to see you for what you really are...
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Comment from John

I see Tony and Wayne have shut-up and disappeared. Although I am sure this Irina is a scammer; she does kick ass and I have a funny suspicion that Tony and Wayne are now walking around with 4 inch high heels wedged firmly up their bung-hole. Irina, it is too bad that someone with your looks, attitude and brain decided to be a crook instead of a good and decent professional. You would have been a great dominatrix.
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Comment from Richard

Wayne - where is the 411 on this chick and the website you mentioned? Who is Tanya and Masha? Have I missed something? You all are too funny.
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Comment from Irina

I dont know Tanya who she I just mad people say things not true about me
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Comment from Dameon

Wombat - I don't want the goats anymore. Can't Wayne and the other boys keep them; please! Do you think Tanya and Irina are the same? Maybe Masha is involved. It is all too confusing for me. Thank G*d the weekend is here. Have a good one boys!
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Comment from Wombat

Hey Irina, please return the goats to Tanya when you have finished with them..they may become scared with a stranger(Wayne) as the goats really prefer Dameon or Wombat's company. :)
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Comment from Richard

Go get her Wayne. This whore is all over the internet. Maybe you can finally ruin her scam.
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Comment from Irina

I think maybe Wayne not a real man. What men look for love on such site. Goats on you
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Comment from Wayne

Oh! yes your photos are on a Putana site, at least 2 that i know of - on one site you have black strip over your eyes... as soon as I find your profiles on these sites again - I will post the links here - putana is a putana is a putana
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Comment from Irina

Wayne like Tony maybe. I think they lovers. All talk lie! I no on Putana sites.
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Comment from Dameon

Where do you f'n find these websites - Holy Sh*t! You guys scare the crap out of me.
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Comment from Wayne

If you go to the putana sites in Moscow etc you will find her profile there for $80.00 USD an hour
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Comment from Dameon

Oh Oh - the goats are back.
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Comment from John

I guess the only one with his head up his arse is Tony
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Comment from Irina

This pig never come to me. All lie he says.
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Comment from Anonymous

Yujuu, Tony....he, he, he, Irina is a wild tigress.
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Comment from Anonymous

I have nan extremely low opinion of men who kiss and tell..what are you trying to prove Tony...or better yet..to who?? You got a problem with this girl..then say so..what you and her did behind closed doors is of no concern to anyone but you and her. Grow up man.
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Comment from Irina

Da Tonny - that is not how you explain when you first report lie here. You stupid man who know nothing of woman. I think you prefer man, maybe so! You must your letters to me can show you true. Goats on you
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Comment from Tony

Anon you wanna see the video? Cool. I can tell you she even swallows and loves deep throat.
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Comment from Anonymous

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Comment from Anonymous

Bullshit Tony !!
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Comment from Tony

@John. Take your head out of your a$$. You may see daylight. :-))))Some people do NOT spend hours and hours on internet. We have a LIFE. At all others, she IS from Kazan. I HAVE met her and actually I shagged her as well. Nobody fcuks Tony. Tony Fcuks. :=)))))
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Comment from Anonymous

This is the same bitch who tried to scam me using the name Elena Ameljanovich. One of the pictures she sent me shows her in the same outfit as the 1st picture. She sent 15 letters from 4/6/06 to 5/25/06. Used email of european99cool@yahoo.co.uk She contacted me out of the blue.
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Comment from Alex

Hello my prince Alexander ! Thanks for the tender and warm letter. They always bring pleasure in my heart and soul. At leisure I always run to the Internet of cafe to write to you and to read your words which while you can transfer only through letters. I so wanted to sit houses with you alone and to talk on different themes when nobody will prevent us. It so is healthy!!! My darling wages in Russia very small and consequently in this country it is very difficult to live, as money suffices only on meal and on what more! I can receive all the necessary documents itself and in very short terms. From you it will be necessary for me that you could find money for tickets and send me them that I could pay the ticket! I shall wait for your important decision and I hope that you will make the true decision! Than you were engaged yesterday? I was at the grandmother in settlement and helped her on housekeeping. Did full general cleaning. On it has left almost all the day. During this cleaning left to itself and thought of you. Tried to present than you are engaged and that now do. Today all has come to work sleepy after yesterday, from hands all falls, I can not concentrate. During the lunchtime my girlfriends on work have given to drink me hot coffee and I have come to the senses. At once it became easy and has passed drowsiness. As soon as the working day has ended I descended home to eat and has gone to the Internet of cafe, now I sit here. Has taken a computer on a floor of hour. Time almost comes to an end also mine has sleepy an effect. The weariness and as soon as I shall come home at once has appeared shall fall to a bed to sleep, as dead. I hope, that in dream I shall see you because while it is a unique opportunity as though in a reality to be with you and to touch you. You have such desire? I shall wait for your answer. WHOLE YOURS Irina.
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Comment from Alex

Hello Alexander! One of our requirements when a woman wants to be in our data base is the documents she must bring. We check her name, home address, marital status, number of children by documents. Only after that her profile is exposed on our web-site. We don't accept the profiles through Internet. Every woman comes to our offices. So, you may be sure that all the girls here have real names and addresses. The only piece of advice we can give is that you should visit a lady in her town first. As you speak about a lady from Kazan, you are welcome. You'll be able to see her in real life, to see where she lives, meet with her friends and parents. After meeting her in real life it will be possible to say if you match. Besides, when you see how she lives you'll be able to evaluate her welfare yourself. I think it's stupid to send money to a stranger, a person you've never met. But to help a fiancee is reasonable, because the income of Russians is rather low. Most people have never been abroad because they can't afford themselves to buy airplane tickets. So, if you want to get married a Russian woman you should be ready to support her. But of course, it's reasonable to do only after a real meeting. Best regards, Oksana Manager ChanceForLove Dating Network www.chanceforlove.com
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Comment from Anonymous

Sadly to say I found this girl, some of the photo's were identical, through www.datemefree. She uses the name Yuliya and her emailadress is yuliya_bebi@mail.ru She writes nice letters, has not yet asked for money and loved my within a few letters. Beware guys
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Comment from Dameon

That's just wrong, her mentioning the towers and my broken heart. Alex - This one tried to get me a long time ago. Ask her if she remembers Dameon. Then tell her to f'k off.
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Comment from Alex

Hi mine Alexander !! Is happy to see your letter. For a today already second time I come into the Internet of cafe. For the first time your letter was not also I left therefrom, has thought, that you will write hardly later and were right. Alexander, write to me more often, well? My darling I understand nothing about what you speak??? I wish to arrive simply to you and to create family. And that that you speak about what that a deceit I have no concept as so can be?? I never deceived nobody and I am not going to do it! Now tell to me that you think of this and whether you want ours with you of a meeting?? Tell please as you carried out the last days off. Further she runs into the Caspian sea! What reservoirs are at you? Whether it is a lot of at you reserves? If is tell please about them. I very much love animals. When I go to collect mushrooms in reserve sometimes I see that the rabbit a raccoon, it happens saw to fiber. But I very much like mushrooms. They at you are or only in shops? Also very much I like to prepare. My favourite dishes: a meat borshch, soup, a mashed potatoes with cookies, pel'menis from the hen, salads, pies and pies which while turn out not so well!;-) Yes, slightly has not overlooked, I wanted to tell even about my travel. 3 days prior to departure home has visited New York. SUPER!!! Has visited on a statue of freedom (the ferry 10 $). Have reached up to ground zero (there where twins stood): a hole fenced with an iron fencing, and a number people selling photos at the moment of falling of towers; Empire State Building - the highest building in New York: beauty, below all such tiny; Brighton scourge - many drunk Russian, living a side - «-áîê with people in poor houses, circle Russian food (even the granny sells pies in the street, +ñûðêè glazed not for 6 roubles, and for a dollar). In grocery shops it is possible to buy everything, everything, the truth is more dear, than in Russia. Very much there was no black bread and sour cream. But home appliances and clothes very cheap. Gym shoes can be bought for 30-40 dollars very much high quality, and the camera or the chamber 30-40 $ when in Russia they cost 100-150 $. It has struck me. On it I shall finish this letter and with impatience I shall wait for your answer. Irina
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Comment from John

Where have Simon and Tony gone? Big talk and now they have nothing to say. Bunch of losers they are!
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Comment from massromantic

Wow! The nerds are all up in arms in nerdville. This post must be the octogon of the nerds. Good entertainment though. She is a scammin ho!! I would say probably the second most recognizable one on all the sites. So if some one wants to fuck her over for once, good on you.
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Comment from I hate gold diggers

I dont get this, i have never steal a chewgum on supermarket, how can these girls be so cruel and steal other peoples money that try to help so they can come to them. They say they are not liers. They are liers all. I never meet a girl from brides.ru, russianwoman.tv that would be honest. Skip them!!!!! I mean these bitches isnt real its not a girl you speak with its a guy that sitting back on a computer. Irina isnt a girl!! If i send a picture of our king in sweden do you think im the king of sweden? Skip them, read the success stories on chanceforlove.com and elenasmodels.com if you looking for something real and are against to dating service that scam. And a woman on free dating russian sites dont ask "how are you doing?" all time and they didnt answer your questions either what you ask them for. They dont care what you are writing they only care about their selfish me and lie all time. Skip the free sites its scam!!!!!
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Comment from Irina the scammer would say so if you ask if you c

"I am very afflicted by that that at me it to not turn out to arrive to you on a visit, Because you are going to arrive to me. I thought that you really love me and wish to meet me, But you cannot give for me a small gift at all, Which consists in that that I have arrived to you"
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Comment from Alex

I ask her if i could meet her in Kazan, she say she want to meet me in my country for a few money. She got wondering when i say i could go to her haha. Check the new letter from her.. Hello Alexander ! It is pleasant to see your letter. I always read them with huge interest and pleasure. It is very interesting to me to learn you, to learn your character, your interests in what that a sort your sense of humour, to learn more about a life in your country Alexander, and than you are engaged, where you work? I very much would like to learn about your family. Probably I already have tortured you the interest.:-) I am very afflicted by that that at me it to not turn out to arrive to you on a visit, Because you are going to arrive to me. I thought that you really love me and wish to meet me, But you cannot give for me a small gift at all, Which consists in that that I have arrived to you. You in fact know, that I never was abroad And very much I wish to visit at you, to look as you you live. I would be very happy and grateful to you If you would help me with a trip to you. But from last your letter I have understood That you not seriously concern to our relations, If you cannot even make to me pleasant. Believe I really loved you and I love till now. I do not know that there will be further now a choice for you!!!!!!!!!!!! I think that for the beginning I should arrive to you and if you can help me please on tickets of a few money! Now it is a little about me. At all I do not know from what to start. I shall tell a little more on my work. I already wrote in the last letter that I work in passport and visa service. For this work mum through familiar has helped me to be arranged. Basically my work consists in work with the documentation, information and other documents for registration of the visa. Today fortunately was not so a lot of work, but to the middle of summer we shall work in sweat of the person. It is good, that I am helped by two more women and one brand new girl which to me to have a little to learn and prompt. But she the good fellow and very much tries. Alexander If you something interested by you ask, because I cannot tell about myself everything, that it is interesting to you. I shall be glad to answer your questions. Due to this work I also have visited America where very much it was pleasant to me. I shall a little tell about that place where I was, you can know. Has lead unforgettable summer 2004 in North Conway, NH. The city appeared very small, about 2000 person of the population, but resort. Therefore there it is possible to notice huge quantity of restaurants, hotels, shops, in general everything, that is necessary for a high-grade life. Around of lake and mountain. Nearby, approximately miles in 6, there is top White Mountain, 7 staffs and ocean whence are visible. You know this city? That me has struck most of all. In films before I have visited America, very much frequently meet youth parties (in the American style) in one house gathers to many people. And it has struck me in reality. To me even has had the luck to visit there. It so is healthy. The small house in which has gathered almost 100 person of youth. But that is strange, in the house everyone came with the strong drinks, and owners of a party should not be spent at all (only to clean all dust after). In general of impressions at me remained much. I shall not begin to write in this letter about other cities in which I was, and I shall write in the following letter, differently you will be tired to read.:-) Especially, my time in the Internet of cafe comes to an end and it is time to release a computer. I shall wait for your following letter. Irina.
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Comment from Wombat

SS is just being provocative to draw attention. I think he is just a "local lad" using mixed English to give a certain impression. "Dream on" is a bit of a give-away. Soooo, go take a long walk on a short jetty SS, please?! I could chance a guess a who you are, but I have been known to be wrong. Bad temper just usually means a lack of self control ....we are not impressed, so bugger off.
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Comment from MAtt

she's on rbrides now,just messaged me! she has"scamming cold-bitch" all over her.... DON'T GIVE THEM POWER & PLAY THIER GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Comment from SukaSux

Suka why do u tell about fat american girls? I never search for a date in usa. And sending 16000 dollars to a girl u dont know yeah right. Dream on. How tuff can you be on internet with your smart words? Stay on the earth with both feet and say to me between 4 eyes or i kick your teeth out. I have bad temper. And i hate people like you. So fuck you! You dont know me.
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Comment from Alex

Hi i get email from her, Read it. I said i want to test her if she is good, maybe she is honest with me or just playing their games. I said to her thats best to meet and talk about money between 4 eyes. Hello Alexander !! I am very glad, that you have written to me. To tell the truth I at all did not trust that you will write to me because I the first time get acquainted with the person from other country on the Internet. Now I would like to tell about myself a little. Probably you so looked mine profile on a site, but I all the same shall tell about myself. My name Irina, and my surname Shalagina. To me of 25 years. My girlfriends and familiar speak, that I look more youngly the years. With this letter I send you my photo. I very much would like to see more than your photos. You can send them in the near future? Your photo very remarkable she has very much liked me also very decent courageous the man. I very strongly like your photos you on them such beautiful and very interesting person, I consider that you very strongly nice!! I was born and I live in beautiful and pure city Kazan which to be in 800 kilometers from Moscow. Till 17 years I studied in an average comprehensive school after that has acted In Kazan State Technical university on a speciality the Economist. Having studied there 5 years I have finished this university with distinction. You of that to me would know it costed.:-) Within 2 years could not find to itself work as all places on my speciality have been borrowed and unclaimed, but I all the same have found her and since then I work as the bookkeeper in passport and visa service of city Kazan. Very much I like to travel, but this very expensive pleasure. I was possible manage only America, and that on work. I went in USA for an exchange of an operational experience with colleagues of this country. I liked this trip. My parents live near to me, approximately in 15 minutes of walking, and I rent an apartment. My mum call Irina Genadjevna and her 62, and the daddy - Oleg Petrovich and to it 64 years. Both of them pensioners. I very strongly love them. I frequently come to them home and I help them with domestic affairs. At leisure I like to go in for sports, I very much like navigation, run, tennis and volleyball. Besides it I like to go to cinema, theatres and to have a rest on the nature in the company of girlfriends. And than you like to be engaged??? On it I shall finish the letter as my time has passed to Internet - cafe. I with impatience shall wait for your answer. Irina
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Comment from NYC

Suka is one of the scammers!
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Comment from A. Banker ( A fat stupid one )

Hello Super SUKA... you sure are a SUCKER... fancy sending $16000 for a Russian woman... At least Fat Stupid American Girls and Even Fatter Stupider English Girls do not cost this much... you really need to do more home work You Fat Stupid Super SUKA.
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Comment from Wombat

Hey SS...go stick your head up a dead bear's bum will ya !! Bloody imbecile, a fool and his money are soon parted !!
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Comment from Super SUKA

stupid user:dameon alex wombat tony.Girls search love and you do not give it to them. Unless to you to like to live with fat stupid American girls. I today have sent to loved irina from Russia 16000 $, that she could lead time wonderfully.
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Comment from James Bond 007

Hi Dr Freud, I plan on getting laid thanks when I go back to Bulgaria later this month. The women there are HOT. I will tell you all about it when I return. So Doc book me in for a 5 hour session, just after Simon. Bond 007
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Comment from Wombat

@Tony.Hey, I am on your/our side...no need for ridicule.Ok, so she has asked for $150 just now....she hadn't at the time of posting...so you were right, that's a pity as she could have been a cool sheila otherwise. I am grown up and have opinions from time to time...I just happen to get some of them wrong, but based on the info at hand at the time.Ok?Ok!! Enough about me....regular "posters" here can offer some helpful advice to the "newly" scammed blokes who are wondering what went wrong.Dameon/NYC/Simon/Tony/Freedyboy etc etc try to do this.Occassionaly we have some fun/banter with certain situations..so what?! Take it easy Tony and keep up your contributions. It's a bloody shame that Dameon has taken offence and bailed out, it's our loss. Yeah Doc', I'll take your advice now that I have employment again, after 4 weeks "in-between-jobs"...I am champing at the bit, mate !! :)
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Comment from Dr Sigmund Freud

Guys ... Guys ... Guys... Please you really all need to get out more and maybe all get laid... It is not good for you sat at a computer all day and all night... Simon... I have booked a 3 hours session for you and I will look into how your mind works... See you boys and girls... Dr Sigmund Freud
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Comment from James Bond 007

Hello Anon... like your super long e-mails and well done at correcting all the know it alls.... I think that Lugansk and Luhansk has something to do with the alphabet they use in the Ukraine the H and the G are almost the same........ Fancy that... I 45 year old wanting to go with a 20 year old... sounds fantastic... ha...ha... Bond007
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Comment from Dameon

Ooops, it seems someome has just had a go at me. Excuse me Tony for giving a sh*t. What's your point? I can only speak for myself, but I have a feeling the other guys would agree. We do not feel like we are running the site. We read or see something, we state our opinion and then leave it at that. Some guys have not cared for what we have to say and I respect that. Sometimes we have a go at each other, but then we reason it out. But for the most part, I think we have brought something to the table and have hopefully done some good. We check this site everyday; each one of us probably have our own reasons. But perhaps you are correct. I tend to have the biggest mouth out of the names you mentioned. So if you want to blast someone, come after me, that's cool! Leave the other boys out of it, especially Wombat. The man has got a heart and an open ear to all sides of the story. And if he sees that he made a error in judgement, he is the first one to admit it. I will bid you all adieu at the request of Tony. Goodbye and good luck. Dameon has left the building.
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Comment from Dameon

How is it that I keep getting drawn into these long political and moral debates? Anon, you are all over the table on this one. I am not sure if you are Russian or European or from somewhere else. The only point I have ever attempted to make here is that everyone should be careful before they give up their $. I have been fortunate enough to travel to many locations. I just returned from almost three weeks in Moldova, Romania and the Ukraine. It was my best vacation yet. I rented an apartment from a family during my stay in Moldova. And in the end, they took no money from me. They cooked for me and I had a great time. And of course it did not hurt that they had a beautiful daughter. And the age difference was only 12 years. Love is a risk, whether online or in a bar. But being the victim of Grand Larceny while losing your heart has got to be rough. I have been very lucky; having been born and raised in NYC, I have become a cynical bastard. Words and pretty pictures are no substitute for action. I am on this site because I believe it is a good thing. I have not been online for months my introduction to scammers was on an American Dating site where there were no safeguards against people posting false profiles. I received over 75 hits from scammers; mostly men (this is only a guess). This pissed me off! I have gotten close to having at least two of them arrested and they have sent me some serious threats using the term "Mafia". Having been raised in Little Italy, I giggle when people threaten me with that term. I am well aware of the rise in organized crime in East Europe and Russia. So when I read that some dude just lost a weeks salary on some fake chick, I feel an obligation to say I am sorry and to warn others about this internet dating scam scene. And as for being robbed for the $400; I am sorry. If that was me, when the price was raised, my fist would have greeted his temple, no matter the consequences. I am 48 and I have no delusions about being with a 20 year old. My friends might just start calling me "Aqualung". So I will say this one more time to all gentlemen. If you have decided to join a dating site, research the site and have an idea of what and who you are hoping to meet. Then stick with this plan. And if your intentions are to actually meet a woman from a different country, be aware of the risks and don't fall in love with a picture. Pictures don't keep you warm at night. And if a girl sends you a photo of her holding a little fury creature close to her bosom, that means that she has already fallin in love with "WOMBAT". : ) And as far as my beloved USA is concerned, I truly do not wish to get into any heavy debate as to whether we are good or bad for his planet. OK - I think I should shut my computer now - Have a great day boys and girls!
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Comment from Tony

Dedicated to Wombat who knows best........Hello my dear! I in the letter shall be brief... But I think that it is a unique way to prove and check up. My mum abused me that I correspond with the man and which can deceive me. She(it) is afraid for me. I respect mum and I shall do(make) as she(it) speaks. She(it) has advised me that.. If you actually the provided person who works and earn money and if you on ñàîì business are interested in me that enough is necessary to make ñëåäóùåå that I have believed you and that you have proved to me that you can make me happy. To prove pluss you should send 150 $ to me on a gift. If you the provided person also speak by the truth - you will make it. It not the big money for you. I understand that it not beautifully and it can cause you surprise, but my mum speaks that to the man never is a pity to the present time money to the woman.... I wait for the answer. I shall not be surprised if you will refuse. Refusal you will show the that I actually am not necessary for you. I wait for the answer if you disagree that and write. But it will be last letter With impatience I wait for answer Natasha -- Best regards, nat mailto:nat_girl81@mail.ru
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Comment from Tony

I have a simple question. Who the heck are NYC Dameon Wombat and Aussie????!!!! Do they run this site? Seems they think they do. Check posts on most profiles. And incidentally Wombat. Remember that cute little girl. The one that you said "You wished girls were so outspoken and did not think she was after money"? She asked me for US$150 today to "show my devotion and send as a gift". Grow up.
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Comment from Anonymous

I do sincerely apologise. I forgot to add. 230 years and still not got it right. How long has it been since blacks can drink in the same cafe as a white person? (Actually I think there is still some hatred especially when it concerns clubs). But, what to teach other countries about human rights? And the one about the taxi costing $400! Yeah I was robbed. I had asked for a quote to go and pick her up. It was $250. As soon as he found she had lost her passport, he upped the price.
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Comment from Anonymous

I do sincerely apologise. I forgot to add. 230 years and still not got it right. How long has it been since blacks can drink in the same cafe as a white person? (Actually I think there is still some hatred especially when it concerns clubs). But, what to teach other countries about human rights? And the one about the taxi costing $400! Yeah I was robbed. I had asked for a quote to go and pick her up. It was $250. As soon as he found she had lost her passport, he upped the price.
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Comment from Anonymous

No problem Dameon. Never been to the States and no thank you I will never go to the States. From what I have seen in the news and like Fox News I feel safer in Russia. :-) The matter of the passports is the fact that for simple things need identification. To buy a firearm you need cash only. I have nothing against carrying identification. I have an ID card and I can even fly through any EU countries with it and no passport. Agree with you about the 230 years and still not got it right. :-) But still want to police the world. I was in a hotel and 2 Chechynians (most probably spelt wrong but sure simon will correct me) tried to lure me in their car. When my "then" girlfriend came to meet me they did not know who she was and told her to get lost. Now I am sure that two nice fine gentlemen who do not speak English, never met me, ONLY wanted to show me round the country. That same girlfriend in Moscow told me that she had lost her passport (got all the tears and everything) and how she could not return home. So we went by taxi. A 3 hour drive cost me US$400. He knew we were stuck and had to pay the price. Another trip, the agency I used for the invitation wanted US$150 between Sheremetyevo and Domododovo airport as transfer. I fund it through Aeroflot agency at US$50. Yeah there are some nice ones. One girlfriends dad gave me his "army" watch. I was told I had to return the favour. So I gave him my watch. Ok worth about $80. His watch I have seen it working because it winds itself up by movement. Problem is cannot change the time/date on it. :) And how do you work it out it is only a handfull of knuckleheads? By the amount of scammers reported, it should be called "fair amount" of knuckleheads. And if a person put himself out as a lonely heart, it is asking for problems and shows vulnerability. Yeah it does not sound nice but it is true. Treat them mean, keep them keen. Going around saying I am lonely, vulnerable, in need of someone, desperate to find love she will think easy pickings. Learn to do a few tests. Make mistakes. At the end of the day you are human. If she kicks off is that somebody you want? Yeah yeah yeah..... she is nice looking. So what. Are you able to fight for her? If you are 45 and she is 20 most probably everytime you go in a bar she will be seen as your daughter. Can you handle all the men trying to chat her up? And what is this about going easy on Cosa Nostra? As any Russian who runs the big companies and you will be told. I have written to many a Russian girl. One was a news reporter. She said it out bluntly who runs these big companies and most of the goverment. Read http://www.lillavilla.com/eng/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=7&Itemid=26 I actually find it brilliant reading. Funny enough, he also has a forum where Russians biatch about Western people. :-) And last one, do your homework. Check, find out, learn. And Dameon with all due respects, you are male. They are Eastern people on a low wage. So most probably you went paying for meals etc. Meet me for a week and pay for everything I need. Yes, once in a while I will invite you for a home made meal. And believe me I will be a nice person. Heck even simon can spend his money on me and I will be a nice person with him. As long as you pay that is. BUT, the truth..... yeah they were nice people. How come you still searching? Now think about it. :-)
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Comment from Dameon

Hey Anon: feel free to vent. You have to take your shoes off in airports in NY, Texas, Florida and most of the remaining states. The machine they use to wrap suitcases is a great idea. Most Russian and Eastern European countries ask for passports as identification. You do not become a democracy in 15 years. After 230 years, we still don't have it right yet. Now can we get back to the situation at hand and that is the hand full of knuckleheads that are using lonely hearts to rob. And by the way; I have been to several countries in East Europe and such, no one has yet tried to rob or scam me. They have all been the nicest people. Thank you all for your time and consideration in this matter. And can we please go easy on the term "Mafia".
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Comment from Anonymous

simon. You can call me matthew mark luke and john. What difference does it make? Is there one simon in the world! Are you really simon? Simple simon says jump up and down. You can call it Luhansk, Luhance, Lugansk or whatever you want. Most of us call it Scamhansk. What Ukrainians call it is immaterial. We are in the West. Do a flight search from Kiev to Luhance and you will get zilch. Do a flight search from Kiev to Luhansk and you will get zilch. Do a flight search to Lugansk and you will find the info. As for using big words, what big words? And Anon, I have been to Russia. Believe me McDonalds is crap there. Order something. Get served something else and still have to pay. Did you know that most Russians will take the left overs with them home for later? Or how about taxis. Rob you alive. How about buying a train ticket you need a passport. Buy an AK 47 and you just need cash. Sheremetyevo airport. Shall we talk about security? Or what about Domodedovo airport how you have to take your shoes off before security. How the Russians trust each other so much at airports they have machines that seal the suitcases with plastic film? How if you go to the OVIR and you are in a rented flat you have to go with the landlord? Yawn..... And all these exclusive deals that were paid up front and not delivered? You honestly think that somebody is going to do a multi million dollar deal and not get a delivery? Most of the high jobs are run by the Mafia. Yeah, the West scammed them and now they have learnt. WHO? Olga? Irina? Natasha? The only thing I have seen true up to now is that they have drunk men. Loads of them go into Western Union with their bottle of vodka to keep warm. Women using gambling machines in the streets. I can go on and on. Grocery shop with armed guard? Banks with armed guard? (Must be to stop western people from scamming). And by the way they have a vodka called Puskin. Its very good vodka. :-)
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Comment from Freddyboy Canada

Alex seems to mad at all Russians in general these days..hmmm go figure....good grief there has to be some good ones in the 100's of thousand's slavic women looking for a new partner and a new life. I simply refuse to believe there are not some truely decent and respectable ladies in these countries....we just seem to find the rotten ones fastest and easiest...perhaps the really good ones are little quieter and do not use supermodels photos to drag up some love hungry man from abroad. Perhaps they do not have much to say about themselves and use their real pictures for us to see...perhaps the real gold is falling to the bottom of the pan and is getting all covered up with this really good looking dirt.
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Comment from Alex

Hi guys, i will play a game and test this scammer if she beg me for money. I hope she answer me
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Comment from Dameon

OK guys - this has to stop now. This site is not to see who knows more than the next person. So let's end this: PLEASE!
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Comment from Anonymous

I guess you have never been to Eastern Europe Anonymous. After Peristrioka, the end of Communism in Eastern Europe, thousands of carpetbaggers from the US and other countries wen to Russian and the Ukraine and sold them things, technology, hard goods, cars etc took the oney up front and never delivered, Called a scam. When I first went there nobody trusted foreigners. It is a great place to do business. Macdonalds first store on Puchkinskayaa in Moscow did $100,000,000 the first year. A grest store here, like Atlantic City did $10,000 the first year. Japan did $25,000 the first year. Cadberry candies, first year $400,000,000. IT was like the US was 60 years ago. fortunes to be made but the first wave of people who came for the US and Germany and France and Spaid were theives and not they don;t trust us. They have more oil then the Mid East. Seems to me we are working the wrong group. And by the way they are very intelligent and very gracious people.
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Comment from Simon

Anonymouns : a person afraid to reveal his identlty. The correct pronunciation is LUHANCE on most maps that is how it is spelled and I am sorry if I use words that are to big for you.
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Comment from NYC

It is Cosa Nostra (This thing of ours). I have never heard of "proper" and Sicilia is ground zero. But you are correct, Napoli is home base for some of the famiglia.
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Comment from Anonymous

NYC nothing wrong with Casa Nostra. Incidentally the "proper" mafia is in Napoli and not Sicilia. :)
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Comment from NYC

1st Anon - easy on the Sicily and Mafia references! 2nd Anon - the war with Simon is over: get back to the business at hand.
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Comment from Anonymous

Hi Simon ... you sound like a know it all smart ass... bet you have never been out of the country and you know everything about everything.
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Comment from Anonymous

So all in all it boils down to Sicily and NOT Russia. Bleedin Mafia. :-)
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Comment from Wombat

El acusado tenia fuertes relaciones en el mundo del hampa.(the girls have mafia connections)
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Comment from Anonymous

Г‰stos son la gente que usa la sinceridad de otros para hacer el dinero. Ellos son tramposos.
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Comment from Anonymous

Quién se preocupa. Éstos son scammers
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Comment from Spanish

First is Lugansk - according to Russian pronunciation and secondly, Luhansk in Ukrainian ( Luhan river ). - PARA ANONYMUS : a ver si es cierto que entiendes correctamente el idioma español. -
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Comment from Anonymous

And incidentally. Guys, learn to check your spelling. Most of these women use online translators. If you spell a word wrong..... oops :-)
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Comment from Anonymous

simon, first of all I can speak fluently English Italian Spanish French and Arabic. To be honest, you have some good points but it took me about 3 reads of what you wrote to understand what you mean. Now imagine a Russian or Ukrainian having to understand what you wrote after translated by some online translator!!!!! Something that most probably changes words etc etc...... And incidentally, you refer to translation agencies and Lugansk (not Luhansk) and that are your basic topics. This scammer is from Russia and not Ukraine. And this scammer is not related to a translation agency. Any woman that has told me she uses a translation agency I have stopped writing to her. Why? Because the chances of me and her communicating are nil. IF she REALLY wants to find a better life in the West she should work on it and try and at least learn a bit basic English. Besides, you can give them a link to an online translator. Try http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr or http://translation.paralink.com/ The latter is a good one as you can do a "back translation" so you will know what difference has been made. If you send her a letter in Russian and you know that the "back translation" is pretty accurate and she says "I could not understand it so I had to get a translator to translate" you have a scammer. And besides...... what you mean "We scammed them first"???????? After 2nd world war they were part of Russia. It is only recently all this dating started. Until then, to get a visa to go to Ukraine or Russia was inviting the KGB to be on your backside.
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Comment from simon

Freddy, life is a gamble. the reference to gamlbing is if I toid you that a slot was going to pay how many times would you play if before you gave up? That is kind of what this is all about. How many frogs do we have to kiss to find the princess, how many letters, how many trnaslator do we pay. If we knew that all of these ladies were legit, you would spend the money, I am sure of that no? But unfortunately too many are scammers. Check this out: pattern 4 letters and then their's so I sent them this: Thank you for the photo of her local document. IF you could do me one more favor, please send me a copy of your license and a your actual address so I can check you out. I like Irina very much but if you go to http://www.anti-scam.org/ You will see that 90% of the complaints are agencies that send 4 letters, which you have, and then comes the letter for money. I told Irina that I would send her the money to pay you. I would ask for her address as well. Luhanst has a very terrible reputation for scammers. That does not mean you are one, however, if you conduct business in the Ukraine you must have a business license. I speak Russian and have several very good friends from Georgia, Grusnians who will check your service out. If you are legitimate you have nothing to fear, if you are not, my frien, the Consulate General at the US Embassy in Kiev, would like to know about it as well as the Ukrainian Consulate in Texas. And, I am coming to Ukraine this September with my Grusnion friends and would love to say hello to you and thank you in person for the service that you are going to provide to me with this email. I am sure you understand. Simon Eddie, I mean you no malace. I am an old fart compared to you young guys and to meet a young beautful woman, I'm old, not dead. All parts still in good operational order. Next time you get one of these letters ask them what I did. These people learned scamming from foreigners. I used to do business there, telecommunications business (I have several division in my company) We scammed them first. Like carpetbaggers. They have learned quickly. and now the scammed become the scammers.
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Comment from Simon

And buy the way Eddie you are right. you never know even if you marry them. All they have to do is be good for three years and they can stay or, which my friend found out they go to the police and cry abuse. She was beating him up and he was bloody and a cop and she still reported him....I am wealthy be shear luck. I worked hard there were days I did not have food and was about to be evicted from where I used to live. I am not cheap but in the same respect I don;t want to throw money away. I feel for anyone who has lost $1.00 to the scammers and to me it has become very personal. I ready your letters and I know there are great ladies out there and some psychos as well. I don't have the answer, if I did I would not still be looking.
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Comment from simon

Freddy, life is a gamble. the reference to gamlbing is if I toid you that a slot was going to pay how many times would you play if before you gave up? That is kind of what this is all about. How many frogs do we have to kiss to find the princess, how many letters, how many trnaslator do we pay. If we knew that all of these ladies were legit, you would spend the money, I am sure of that no? But unfortunately too many are scammers. Check this out: pattern 4 letters and then their's so I sent them this: Thank you for the photo of her local document. IF you could do me one more favor, please send me a copy of your license and a your actual address so I can check you out. I like Irina very much but if you go to http://www.anti-scam.org/ You will see that 90% of the complaints are agencies that send 4 letters, which you have, and then comes the letter for money. I told Irina that I would send her the money to pay you. I would ask for her address as well. Luhanst has a very terrible reputation for scammers. That does not mean you are one, however, if you conduct business in the Ukraine you must have a business license. I speak Russian and have several very good friends from Georgia, Grusnians who will check your service out. If you are legitimate you have nothing to fear, if you are not, my frien, the Consulate General at the US Embassy in Kiev, would like to know about it as well as the Ukrainian Consulate in Texas. And, I am coming to Ukraine this September with my Grusnion friends and would love to say hello to you and thank you in person for the service that you are going to provide to me with this email. I am sure you understand. Simon Eddie, I mean you no malace. I am an old fart compared to you young guys and to meet a young beautful woman, I'm old, not dead. All parts still in good operational order. Next time you get one of these letters ask them what I did. These people learned scamming from foreigners. I used to do business there, telecommunications business (I have several division in my company) We scammed them first. Like carpetbaggers. They have learned quickly. and now the scammed become the scammers.
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Comment from Anonymous

Thanks Admin'.
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Comment from Anonymous

Incidentally, look for what jobs are well needed in your country. e.g. in UK it is doctors, nurses are in need. If she does not speak English FORGET IT. She may be good looking. She has zilch chance of finding work. She can be a brain surgeon. If she does not speak English she is hopeless in your country. The MAIN thing the Embassy looks for is "how will she integrate". Or how will she be "productive" in your country. If the chances are none, then getting a visa are none as well. If you are an "average" person on an "average" income with a non English speaking bride to be, you become a "lesser then average" income and taken as a liability. Sorry but that is the way it is.
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Comment from Anonymous

@Mark. Yep. You are right. UNLESS she is something like a brain/heart surgeon, or she has some talent that is very much needed in your country, or something like that it is hard work. On a rough estimate, a couple of trips to "meet her" just to get evidence of "your love" to apply for a visa you are looking at about $6,000 to $7,000. Then you have the visa application to put through, which can be refused on the most simple of mistakes. Then you bring her over. She divorces you after say 2 years and makes a mint out of it. Great stuff isn't it?! And to give you an example...... Bulgarian woman. I showed my credit cards to Embassy. All in all about $20,000 credit limit. Showed my bank statements. About $10,000 savings. Gave guarantee that she will stay at my home. I will pay for her ticket. I will make sure she leaves the country. I pledged my savings as guarantee she will leave. I was told I can go to prison if she becomes an alien in the country to which I agreed. She showed she had $3000 as spending money. She got refused a visa on the basis that she did not have a job to go back to. Isn't life a wonderful thing. :-)
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Comment from Mark

You guys have done your homework, way to go, in simple terms to get one of these girls in the USA you have 2 choices, slim and none unless you have lots of time and money.
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Comment from Anonymous

1: They have internal passport which is like an i.d. 2: they have an international passport. 3: they do not have third passport. If they want to travel to countries like Holland Italy and some others, they apply for a Schengen Visa. Use google and you will find which countries accept it. England does NOT accept it. Malta accepts it on the condition it has not been used for any other country. If it is a multiple entry Schengen visa then it is accepted. Now, about the casino I take it the writer is referring to "take a chance". Sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose. YES, there is sometimes a lot of balony written on here. BUT it goes both ways. Ukrainian and Russian women do not know nothing about what is needed to get a visa. And most of the men on here do not know what is needed to get a visa for Russia (Ukraine does not need a visa any more). Neither most probably know about OVIR. Neither know that for example the last time I was in Russia 4 men got shot in one day. Did you know that you will not see an Indian/Pakistani/Black (coloured)/Jew/Hispanic or anything of the such? Watch your "woman" panic when you tell her you are going out for a walk! You will get told "This is Russia".You cannot walk in the streets with more then US$100 on you. And how many of you can afford all this? To REALLY find a woman, go over, visa, hotel/apartment, wine her and dine her, buy presents, taxis and all sorts? Then maybe it will fall through and you have to start all over again. And do you think scammers are only on "internet"? What if you marry her. After 2 years she gets the permanent visa and then files for divorce. There are many stories of this happening. So.... have fun. Chill out. As they say Che Sara Sara.
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Comment from Freddyboy Canada

simon you actually do seem to be a rather intelligent sort of person..much to my surprise. You also seem to know about world travel and the workings of the eastern european countries..and you are correct on all accounts. But I have no idea why the referal to the slot machines and looking for a lifetime partner have any connection. And really it does not do any of us any good to put down each other or the girls...desperate people do desperate things. Ther are thingsd that the guys who post to this site sometimes do and say that I do not approve of and is no help to anyone...but I do not lump them all together. Some of the guys are level headed and have their ducks in a row and some really wing it. The same goes for the girls. I spent 6 months corresponding with a very nice girl from the Ukraine and we decided we should meet. I flew to the Ukraine and spent two weeks in her company ..and during that time filed necessary documents and invitations for her and her daughter to come to canada. I had meals in there home and became almost part of the family. Yes I helped them financially..who in their right mind wouldn't..and for some after I got back to canada I also financially supported them. Finally after a few more months it began to dawn on me that we were really no closer to her landing in Canada than when I had left Ukraine. I asked some very pointed questions and cut off the money supply...the answer I recieved??? Yes you are a very nice man and thank you for your help but I am not really wanting to come and live with you.... Was I scammed?? I don't honestly know..but yes probably. But how could I be I did everything right?? I followed all the rules..I made sure I wasn't b eing scammed..but the end result?? It cost me more money than i wish to admit [probably only pocket change for you simon]..but it was lots to me. But worse yet was the damage to my heart and to my respect for these wonderful women of the Ukrain and Russia. You can't set down rules and think you are going to be safe and alright and nothing but good will follow. You have no way of knowing if you have really found that really honest and sincere bride..but you can't give up..and you can't point fingers..and you can't ever say you will never be hurt. Just accept all for who and what they are and try to learn some lessons and keep trying.
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Comment from Simon

Same guys smae bullshit. You guys havenothing else to do with your day go watch WWP world iwde putz. I have a simple questo to all of you macho men. "Bond", You wish what a dreamer you are. I would be willing to bet you are one sorrowful looking ass. Where is my question for you geniuses: I don't know if any of you are old enough to go into a casine, I would imagine not and probably never have. Biggest suckers bet, the slots. Let say a dealer told you that he has been watching one machine and it wsa going to hit, he knew it and the odds are set by the house, trust me I know that and he said play that $1.00 slot all 6 ways, $6 a pop, and he said it will pay off very big. And this guy was serious because I had tipped him very well,( I know that goes against everything you guys do, tipping for good service and all) that is by the way the right thing to do if you win, would you play it and how many times would you pull the arm or puch the button before you gave up? What would you gamble knowing that if it hits big time, which is what you were told, how far do you reach. I was into it $600 bucks and it hit..$500,000 jackpot. What is the point? First, understand that these girls csn not get a visa to come here. not going to happen. You will have to go there. So you can eliminate the ones who say they will come to you. Second, eliminate the translators that you have gotten many letter from like XXI Century. Big scammers. Then ask the lady for a photo ID on her local travel documents. In the former USSR states they have two passpots now acutally 3. one local which is an ID of sorts, 2nd is one that allows them to travel to different European cities freely. I think it is calle a Shurgay Visa and then an international passport. Assuming you don't speak Russian or Ukrainian, I am sure you can find an agency or Russian person, got in NYC there are millions of them in Florida, hundreds of thousands or email the local Ukrainian Embassy in Texas and ask if the papers are legitimate. If they are not then why don't we post that information and also the name of the translating agencies that have burned you. I speak Russian and write in Cyrillic A and when I get a letter from the companies I send a letter to the lady in Russian. If she does not answer it has cost me nothing. Also all of these translating companies have to be licensed, Ask them for the license. I checked out FT and they are legitmate, thsn it goes back to the slot concept. How many times do I have to write a beautiful lady before I find the one honest one that is really beautiful... If she write me back in Russian, I can converse with her but you, who don't know Russian look for a translator. A person you know is Russian. Here where I live there are tens of thousands of Russian ladies. Unfortunately they have been bitten by the American warewolf bitch and have turned. And if I want ugly nasty self center bitches I can get an American girl. Instead of cursing and putting down playing all the girls, like thomas who makes agreements with them (what the hell is that aqbout?)if you work together as an informative group. like grown ups, you can eliminate the scum scammers. Post them and send the report to the Ukrainian and American embassys. The American Embassy in Ukraine really gets upset with scammers and they will go after them with the help of the Ulrainian government. Just a suggestion. As far as my attitude and rudeness, I have two signs as you come into my house. First sign-No treasspassing Vicious dog, second sign, Owner Worse
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Comment from James Bond 007

To Ali... crawl back under your stone you shirt lifter. You must be totally stupid or maybe you do not understand English. These women are scammers and not looking for dates you idiot.
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Comment from James Bond 007

She is all over the internet and is a well known scammer. She even wrote to me for a while. But I have not sent her any money and never would. Bond never gives his hard earnt money to any pretty photos... I would rather spend my money on holidays and get to meet real women...Bond... James Bond 007
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Comment from Simon

Good catch on the photos
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Comment from Anonymous

she is writing to me having found me on elitemate .com. The replies to e-mails I send her come back like boomerangs, doubelquick-time. Then she writes to another of my aliases using different profile but same e-mail address. this is where she has stolen the photos from. http://www.liveinternet.ru/photo/_nagval_/ And this is her hall of shame http://www.romancescam.com/album/thumbnails.php?album=1001
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Comment from Alucard

Indeed good show, I always like it when people take these "criminals" for a ride!!!
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Comment from FYI

Most of them are on dialup. They scam. Let them pay out. I have even gone as far as to use the e mail addresses they use for spam mailing. Register it on a sex site. Let them get spammed. If they do say 3 hours a day on the net and for 2 hours they get spam mail or time wasting letters one day they will give up. They want to play the mugs game. Lets play. At our rules.
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Comment from FYI

Most of them are on dialup. They scam. Let them pay out. I have even gone as far as to use the e mail addresses they use for spam mailing. Register it on a sex site. Let them get spammed. If they do say 3 hours a day on the net and for 2 hours they get spam mail or time wasting letters one day they will give up. They want to play the mugs game. Lets play. At our rules.
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Comment from Mike

I wholeheartedly agree. Play them like a big bass. I've done the same with scammers, even going so far as to have the "money" delivered by courier to their apartment. I must hire a poor courier service as the money always seems to be left at the wrong apartment!
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Comment from Anonymous

Why not! Waste their time. Show them what it is to be a con.
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Comment from Anonymous

Just makes us stoop to her level Tony and this helps no one!!
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Comment from The Avenger !

She is also 'working' under the name of Svetlana and using the e-mail address of: Not-the-game@bk.ru Quite ironic!! She is on Cupid bay and was also on Single-Russian-Women. Have a huge collection of her photos and am lucky as she has not, as yet, asked me for money. Yet !
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Comment from Wombat

Cool routine Tony !! Made me laugh.
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