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Comment from RomAna

Report this to the Financial Services Authority immediately. I am sick and tired of hrieang about people being ripped off by these opportunistic conmen hopefully (it is only a hope mind you) the FSA can track them down and do them in once they're off their coffee break.To your credit, your BS detector is well attuned!
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Comment from Malena

Run like the wind! I smell a scam brewing. If you canont find decent company history, and they are not registered with the better business bureau, then odds are their company is not credible. Even if they are serious, they are new at what they are trying to do and will probably screw you over. Tread lightly on this one and be careful.
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Comment from Adriana

Cutandpasteprofits.com is a SCAM! STAY AWAY! It's the same thing with copynpaste4cash.com and this guy is rnnuing other sites also, same sites but with different domains. I've been doing money online since 2001 and Craigslist is DEAD! It used to work marketing ON CL a few years ago but not anymore. It can work but you will need a lot of money to start out and there is a big risk involved. I would not recommend CL marketing to anybody especially if they are new to making money online. +1Was this answer helpful?
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Comment from Roamer

I thought that you would like her.....She is definitely beautiful!! Are you sure that she's not too old for you???
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Comment from ~Black Panther~

Wow! I checked her out.From her profile that she has written,we would be a good match.Thanks buddy for the thought.She does have beautiful eyes and is a pretty lady.She would have so much to offer.I would love to do a little dirty dancing with her:)
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Comment from Roamer

Hey BP, I found you a dance partner....I hope she's not too old for you......#27208- Viktoriya...Latest Additions on Army of Brides....
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Comment from Dameon

cl2thdoc - forget about the consequences she has to face; what about the ones you have to face? Forget about the first couple of years together and think farther down the road. Trust me on this; I know. Ok - enough rambling here, I have to go back to that new scammer. - Ooooooh Fa!
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Comment from ~Black Panther~

Unprofessional,what is your profession? I'm curious.the reason I came to this site is hopely one day I will come across photo's or information on a young lady that scammed me a while back.I have learned a lot in my short time here and learn more about these criminals behind these scams and how they operate.This is only a project for me and something I enjoy doing.It gives me great satisfaction when I can help others to find information and to expose this criminals.I also have come to known some great people here and some not so nice ones.So Unprofessional,when I'm here,I like to be goofy sometimes and very serious when I want to be.One can't be serious all the time or life would be boring.I hope you can be goofy sometimes:) I'm still young and still have so much to learn.What country do you live? I'm from Brazil.My native language is Portuguese and I speak seven other language.Maybe one day we can talk off line.
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Comment from cl2thdoc

My HUGE helper - The Unprofessional... When the photos I sent to you were numbered, it was because I numbered them when I down loaded them into my computer... It was not done by her... As to Dameon's comment... I have DEFINITELY spent a lot of time thinking about the consequences a young girl will face with a much older man in her life... I never want to be the reason my partner is unhappy, and I cerainly look to maturity as I determine if I would want to continue corresponding with someone... My letters can get long and informative and I expect to see the same in return in time, and if I do not, then I wonder what we would talk about over the next 30 years... As to everyone else offering advice and help... You have ALL been exactly what I would have hoped for when I first started trying to research someone that gave me "cause for pause..." Thanks so much for the help and concern for me...
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Comment from The Unprofessional

Chris,one more thing you should be aware of.If you receive pictures from an individual,check to see if they are numbered.Scammers quite often will have the photos numbered in sequence but not always.Black Panther,I'm not sure what to think about you.Your goofy at times but you appear to have some intelligence.If you want to contact me,write me at my address below.Put Panther in the subject line and that client will accept it.All others are blocked.
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Comment from Dameon

R - I have never seen her on any of the sites. Would love to see her in my local bar:-) Either way, that is definitely a picture of some model or something. I am not buying into her being real!
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Comment from ~Black Panther~

Hey The Unprofessional,who are you? you seem to be someone that has a lot of knowledge and knows whats happening.I hope you will be around and wlcome.
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Comment from Dameon

I will look tonite.
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Comment from Roamer

Hey D, is this a past scammer,#27229, Polina....She looks real familiar to me...She's on the latest additions of AOB...And 27045 Viktoriya, who claims to be 18 but looks older..
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Comment from Dameon

cl2thdoc - I am certainly glad that you are asking all these questions and I am sorry that you have been burned before. A few of the guys sent me e-mails on your search. I certainly hope the boyz are giving you all the info you need to make a logical decision. The end result is this; no matter what we say to you; you will need to follow your heart and instincts. And to that, just please be careful when making your decision. I wish you much success. But I am going to say this one last time; There is only a very slight chance that a woman between the ages of 18 - 23 will fall in love with a middle-aged man from another country; unless of course you are Brad Pitt. And even if she is legitimate; what then? I know many young women from Russia and East Europe who left their families to come to NYC. A lot of them suffer great moments of anxiety and depression because they are away from family. Just be careful with your heart my friend and be sure of what you are looking for.
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Comment from J.W.Marks----AKA----Roamer

Hey 2thdoc, Roamer here!! I am glad that you have be a consumate investigator on this site....And welcome to our playground....As you have noted, you have been monitoring us for quite some time before making your presence known...I commend you for it... I too monitored for quite some time also, but I haven't been scammed by anyone.....I am married, but have friends who in the past were scammed and then I researched scams and made this my home away from home...We are by no means experts in the way to detect all scams, but I think that I can say for all of us, that we take pride in ourselves with the expansion of knowledge we have all come to learn from one another...It's all about our sharing with one another that makes this a real good site for all...As far as IP searches go, even with all of the info we glean, one can still be 100% wrong..There are sites out there and programs that can completely make you originating address unknown...And if I know it is possible, well then we have to take it for granted that the big scamming organizations are also aware of it too...Anyway, enough of my diatribe....Welcome to our "playground"!!!!
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Comment from ~Black Panther~

I will get back with you.Talk to you later.
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Comment from cl2thdoc

Evgenia Finko is her name... and she has given me her complete address already... As well as her mobile number... In all the correspondence, I feel as if she is telling me things honestly, but occasionally I get a response that is not consistent with how things are when we talk on the phone... All minor discrepencies that could easily be attributed to a poor memory... but they are still ocasionally there... Thanks for all the help everyone has given me...
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Comment from ~Black Panther~

Good point John.Chris,I think the first comment from The Unprofessional has answered your question about IP address.I believe this girl is telling you the truth when she says she lives in Melitopol.And if you want to make sure,next time when you talk to her,ask her for her Physical address or Mac address.I see you have done a back check on this girl and came up with nothing on her.Good job.But Chris if your still not sure about her,I have ways on coming up with information on someone.I shouldn't be saying this.If you won't mind can you give me her full name? I could check for you.Talk to to later.
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Comment from John 42

Chris that is a good way to do it meet her in Kiev and book the train ticket for her.I f she is willing to meet there then that might tell you something about her intentions.There are a few travel agencies you can trust one i know of in Kiev which can handle all of her travel.See where this leads you for a little while and wait and see if the money letter comes if it is for travel then tell her no problem you will handle all for her if she does not like this then there is something wrong good luck.
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Comment from cl2thdoc

I started writing her on Amazing-Women... Her agency is suppose to be listed in Melitopol... When I have called her on the phone, I am able to communicate fairly well... certainly NOT perfectly... but almost ALL of the conversations can be paraphrased in ways that make what I say better understood... Since I am used to listening to English spoken with a Russian accent, I follow what she says fairly well, and I had the concern others have mentioned.... There is no need for us to have an interpreter unless it is only for protection for her... I would think meeting in a public place would solve that since she does not want to meet in Melitopol. I have suggested meeting in Kiev, and she is willing to do this, but I have a feeling the letter asking for "help affording this" is about to come soon... I guess that will let me know what is really going on with her, huh??
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Comment from John 42

Pia i can understand Russian better than Mainer.cl2thdoc it is quit possible that the agency she uses is in Kiev if she checked out with a detective agency then maybe she is legit but use caution and watch for the signs.And the biggest test is tell her you are planning a trip to see her and see what her response is.And like our friend Forrest has mentioned why would she need an interpreter if she speaks good enough english over the phone to me that is the agency doing this.When you write to the unprofessional tell him what agency she is using and i have a way of finding out about them in Kiev.
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Comment from Forrest

Chris - if you communicate fine with her on the phone yet she needs an interpreter when you visit, I would be very cautious. It might be that the person speaking on the phone isn't her.
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Comment from Forrest

There is an English language barrier, Pia. I speak Mainer, Dameon speaks Noo Yawkish, Roamer speaks some southern dialect that takes a trained ear to comprehend, and Geeves speaks Canadian, eh? :)
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Comment from Pia

Just my two pennies in... what if she's from Mari-whatever(as been born there and lived there for a while) but lives in Kiev? God knows not all of us end up in the same town/city we'v been born in... There is a language barrier even in between two native english speaker how big that w ould be in between two diff native language speakers? Just ask her where she lives in fact. It should make light:)
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Comment from cl2thdoc

Here is my email... sorry for the typo... cl2thdoc1@yahoo.com... I have sent you a personal email... I hope it helps you "find me" so we can build trust in who I am... and what I am searching for... Respond when you can....
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Comment from The Unprofessional

That's fair enough, but how about you contact me at player25@operamail.com
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Comment from cl2thdoc

Here is my email... cl2thdoc1@yaoo.com... write me direct if it helps you... I am a dentist and looking for a long term relationship... I have never reported to be anything else... I have web cam and will allow you to see me if I can also see you... Please "shine light" on what I am trying to figure out... Christopher Larson...
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Comment from The Unprofessional

If you read and understand my first comment then you should know all about IP's.I sympathize with you for your losses.Show me your IP and I will "shine a little light on you"
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Comment from cl2thdoc

I have been watching comments on this site for over 1 year... I have learned much from the people willing to help others avoid potential scammers... When I started, I was a stupid as everyone... I sent money when I should not have... I visited people who never wrote me... I visited others I should have not visited because they were only trying to collect money in a meeting... I have PAID my dues... I have made my mistakes... I believe in this process, but trust in the people who have told every one to STOP being idiots... and listen when they talk... I am now listening... I hope this tells you more about me and the very expensive search I have undergone... So, WHO are you that the advice you offer is not telling me HOW this is possible??? If it were Wayne... (or other's I first mentioned)... I would not wonder HOW it is possible for an IP address to be from a city more than 600KM from the town the original address and the girl reports as her hometown... It is not possible for an IP to be from a town so far away... It should be a major city much closer to her hometown if she is from a "small village"... but Melitopol is more than 100,000 people... hardly a "small village"... There are internet servers in this town as I have corresponded and tracked IP addresses to this town... but to be routed through Kiev.... That is the mystery... and one I am wanting solved BEFORE I spend more money on gifts and a visit, when the girl has different intentions.... Does this help you??
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Comment from The Unprofessional

To: cl2thdoc, how is it that you talk about reverse IP's when you know very little about an IP search to start with??
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Comment from cl2thdoc

OK... My "Unprofessional help"... I have checked the 3 IP's listed in the header... The first is my computer... the second is a routing site in Moscow... the third is from Kiev... there are NO OTHER IP's in the header... I have checked about 20 other IP's from others I correspond with and each of them show a location IN the town the girls claims to be from... This is the ONLY discrepancy I have come across... I have been to Ukraine 10 times in the last year, and feel like I am fairly knowlegable in how the whole dating scam thing seems to work from the girls perspective... I just can't figure out how the "final" IP address would NOT be from her city... Is this even possible??? I have done a name search on google and she is never listed... I have also checked her out by a detective agency and they say she is who she appears to be... They have no report of her ever scamming someone... Can you shed any further light on IP addresses that should have a routing into the girls city, but this does NOT happen in this case??
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Comment from The Unprofessional

It shows up as the provider's base, not the physical location of the computer in question. For example, a satellite company based in the UK can serve Nigeria among other places, so an IP check on the headers of someone using their service will show up as the UK even though he's in Nigeria. I hope that makes sense to you. The other thing to remember is that an email will travel from the scammer's PC to the email provider, to your email provider, to your PC. That's why an email will show several sets of IP addresses in it. It's for each stop along the journey it takes.
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Comment from cl2thdoc

OK... I need the "Professional's Opinion"... so Wayne, Black Panther, Forrest, Pia, Roamer, or Damian... This question is for you.... and ALL your expertise... I have been writing someone for about 9 months... With your help, I learned how to reverse an IP address... She tells me she is from Melitopol.... but her IP comes from Kiev... How is this possible??? She tells me it is because her interpreter has offices in Kiev and emails are sent from there... She has never asked for money, or even hinted she would want this, but I do know part of the "meeting scam" is because the girl and the interpreter can split the money for translation services that are not needed... I have called her on the phone many times... I want to visit, but I am being told she now needs an interpreter to help her when we are able to communicate just fine on the phone... She is young (19) and this requirement comes from her mother (as she tells me)... This rings of a possible scam, but my heart does NOT want to believe this is a possibility ( I am old and stupid... ha ha ha... and thinking with my "other head"...) Let me know about the IP discrepency... I get very confused about some of this technical stuff...)))))))
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Comment from Geeves

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and I would like to be holding this one.
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Comment from Capt. Kirk

but this is an ugly bitch !
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Comment from Stephen

I agree Forrest. It seems so refreshingly innocent and unposed.
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Comment from Forrest

Also looks like this picture was taken from Myspace or some other similar website.
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Comment from Jessey

Looks like the country of Benin is now right there with Nigeria, Ghana and Senegal
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