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hey has anyone in here recieved emails from alina pavlova, if so could i contact you to share the emails i got from her to see if they are prewritten ones
to top ^Comment from Aussie
These two photos are of two different sheilas to begin with....the mail will be the best clue
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just wondering if there is anyone on here that has been scammed by alina pavlova and has some emails from her if they could post there email on here so i can contact them and share emails that i have recieved to see if they matched the ones you have recieved.
regards
david
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G'day Aussie. I forgot to tell you. ALSO look at "tricks". e.g. letter translations. 1 letter $5. 1 month $100. Now, let us work this one out. You contact Western Union. Ask the charges for $5. Also do not forget she may write every day. So work out costs. Now ask Western Union for the cost for sending $100. So it looks more attractive paying for a month. 30 x $5 = $150 (saving $50) and also save on Western Union fees. BUT!! What if you pay $100 and after 3 days she does not write any more? She does this to 5 men, that is $500 for sending maybe 15 templates. So think first.
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G'day Aussie. No problem giving some advise. I have never joined the forum on this site. To be honest too busy at the moment. There are a lot out there on the internet. I used to be on two of them. http://www.stop-scammers.com/ BUT word of warning. Use it mostly for info. There are some right stupid people on there. Also used to be on another one called russianbride (or something like that). You will find that about 75% of members are either Americans or Canadians on most forums. ADVICE: 1) whatever you read "take with a pinch of salt. 2) always learn to "read between the lines". 3) understand there are scammers everywhere. 4) scammers come in all shapes and forms. e.g. you can find a "russian detective" going round forums offering to trace "the girl who scammed you" and pass on information. To me this is "rub salt in the wound". Why? The person has just been scammed and now being asked for cash for possible usless information which at the end of the day, even if "he/she" is traced will get you nothing back. 5) most do not even know what visas, requirements are needed to "really marry a foreign citizen" 6) most do not know how much it costs to marry a foreign citizen. e.g. two trips from Aussieland to Russia, plus hotel/apartment plus spending money just to see your girlfriend. Have you checked how much? Can you afford about US$8000 in a year? 7) do yourself some templates. Learn to cut and paste. Most letters are roughly the same that you will get. If after letter 6 or 8 she is still looking ok, then start typing proper letters. 8)read, look and notice. If she says she is on US$100 a month and she has a 48inch tv, a door that the router work on it will cost about US$500, nice carpets, nike clothes on, a photo next to a lovely 4x4 and whatever...... yep you have a scammer. Then again, she can also plead poverty and write humbled letters and still be a scammer. 9) do NOT believe 99% of russians live in poverty. When I was there the only people driving a Lada were the police. There are a lot of foreign cars in Russia. 10) and MOST IMPORTANT. Do NOT fall in love on letters. NEITHER fall in love after first meet. MANY a man has gone there to meet her and face to face they did not like each other. And last but not least... Scammers come in all forms. What is to say you never send any money. You go over and she makes you spend every single dime/penny/dollar you have including on your credit card buying her gifts? Then she dumps you. Use your head. Use logic. Always look at life like a game of chess. Think of her move so you are ready to counter attack. If you are taking for example US$1000 for spending money, say you are only taking US$500. See what she says. If she is after bleeding you, she will not be happy. And sit down. Watch an American movie. Most of them that is the idea of life abroad. Mansions, big houses, 4 x 4s. Ask her what she thinks of your homeland. You will be surprised.
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G'day Nick,
Thank you very much for taking the time to write such a full,comprehensive answer to my query...it is appreciated. Also, I am sure that it will help many others. Cool !! :) What forum do you suggest? the one on this site ?
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G'da Aussie. Really you should use a forum to ask questions as in here they tend to be "lost". I also noticed on one profile you posted about Australia and Scammers. Now, to answer your questions, the program the Bat (and if you want it I can tell you where to download it for free) is a "mass mailer" program. It is also used for templates. NOW, before you start "getting your boxer shorts in a twist", it is NOT really something to panic about. Contrary to a lot of allegations it does NOT mean she is a 100% scammer. IF she uses a personal computer or a company computer and it has the Bat then you have to look for certain things. If she says she uses an internet cafe computer then 99% she is a scammer. Reasons: (a) no internet cafe will install such a program. They are interested in time wasted on internet not giving shortcuts to saving time and mass mailing and (b) using such a program leaves the e mail address and e mails on the computer which, obviously is not something a person will want to do as others may read the letters. IF it is a personal computer or a business computer (i.e. she e mails from work) then the best thing to do is to ask 4 or 5 questions in each letter. IF she does not answer at least 2 or 3 of them she is using templates. IF she asks you questions, answer them and question back on them. Things like "what do you think"? "do you agree on this"? "what is your opinion"? "what does you family say to you living abroad"? IF she writes back with a totally different letter more then two times, do not waste your time any more. She is using templates. NOW, it may be she is either (1) a scammer or (2) does not know English and does not want to (a) admit it or (b) use either an online translator or a translator at the internet cafe (a lot of internet cafes have translators there just to make money translating letters. If the person an earn say $10 a day translating letters, that means about US$200 a month which is a good wage for them just typing letters and translating). BUT, if she does not speak English, then you are going to have problems when you meet her and, if she does not even at least want to use an online translator, then she is lazy. So whichever way, it is best to move on. Incidentally, I have a mate from Down Under (Melbourne). My ex fiancee (she is russian) and me introduced him to another Russian. Now they are in love. SO moral of the story. Do NOT just stick to dating sites. Use forums. Make friends. If somebody has a "loving" girlfriend who he has met and is happy with, ask if she has a friend who is single. You might hit it lucky. (BUT be careful, there are scammers as well on forums. If you get mailed with any info about some girl who is a friend of his girlfriend, check his IP and make sure it is not Russian or Ukrainian).
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G'day Nick, Could you please advise me if anyone who has The Bat in their girls email details,as the cross mailer, is necessarily writing to a potential crook/scammer ?? It seems very common from Yoshkar Ola area... but don't know about other areas.
Am just curious.
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As they say, He who answers to the Bat is as blind as a Bat. :-)
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