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Comment from Penguin

she also goes by annarol10@yahoo.com she is a geologist,got shot in the leg during robbery,who wants a scarred up bitch?
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Comment from Dayvid

I love u
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Comment from John

She is also Carol Smith -carolsmith_000@yahoo.com.She sent to me this some pictures.She say I live US but my father work in the Ghana.I fly to my father.-Yes!!!! I looking stop-scammers.com and she is. I stop conversation with her.
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Comment from jpilkington

i met her as juliet biola williams on fling.com she claims to be in benin republic w. africa as of 10/1/07 she uses email juliet_love44@yahoo.com she got $670.00 from me
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Comment from Anthony

How all this girl also goes by the name Niky Mathias e-mail address carring niky@yahoo.com she been writting to me about two weeks
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Comment from roamer fudd

Is that you ,Tom Jackson????
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Comment from TJ

I think Simon the Night Shitter needs to listen to Mac Davis' HARD TO BE HUMBLE song.
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Comment from roamer

Hey D, I think that the both of us have been very poignant!!!! Now let us see where this leads!!
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Comment from Dameon

Simon - how are you my dear knucklehead. It is amusing to find that not only can you not write (spell), but you cannot read either. I have never sent anyone I met on the internet money. Mother Teresa, may she RIP couldn't scam me. I will try and be as gracious with you as I possibly can. First; I am not looking overseas for a wife. The site that I frequent is a goof to me. I actually go looking for the scammers and they are so easy to find. Russian, East European, African and Fillipinos are all over this site in the early AM - EST. Oh, by the way - AM means morning and EST means Eastern Standard Time. I find them all a giggle. You pop up every now and then and ramble on and on and on and yet you say nothing of consequence. I think that you have been scammed so many times that you protect many of these slugs in order for you not to feel as shitty about yourself as you do. And I can certianly understand that. So here is the deal, you stop your rantings and your attacks on people, especially my friend Roamer and I will never utter your name again on this site. Your diatribes (get a dictionary)have become boorish and annoying. Please, I am asking you kindly; go away!
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Comment from roamers been searching

Simon, are you a real dickwad or what??? You seem to think of me as some sort of demented person here!!!!And I'm not,sir....You see first of all, I only communicate with women that can read and write english fairly well....I deal witheducated women who aren't always looking for a mate...I deal with other people who just want my input on their situations with these women.....I am usually introduced to these women through a third party, for a kind of one on one friendship!!!!!To this day both my wife and myself have become extremely good friends (penpals) with multiple people abroad....When my wife or I see red flags pertaining to these people, we investigate into further detail the actual facts on each and every situation....I or my wife never pretend to want to have them for lovers or anything like that, we just assist other people who think that they might be getting scammed....I personally do a lot of research on quite a few people, and it has come to me that most are honest and decent people, but when we find out that they are scammers, well then thats a different story....We inform all people involved as to the "Facts"!!!! I never say I love you or I want you or any of that crap.....I never lead them on...I treat them as a human being, just trying to learn about them, and 90% of this is done with snail mail, and real phonecalls make up the rest!!!!! I'm not looking for kicks, or to build up my ego or trying to put another notch on my belt.....You see sir, I'm for real...I don't play headgames with any of them....I learned a long time ago to show respect to people I have never met....But meeting a person can definitely fill in all of the blanks that you might have.....In closing I feel that I never have to meet you in person, because you have already proved to almost everyone here what a real jerk-off that you really are!!!!!And as far as a fool and his money are soon parted, well you must be real close to being broke!!!There's a song going through my mind that Frank Zappa did----You're an asshole,You're an asshole, That's right!!!!!
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Comment from Anonymous

simon , nigeria is as well known for a country where blond hot chicks just .....................................DO NOT EXIST AT ALL !!!!
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Comment from Simon the nightstalker

So what we have is here is a major circle jerk, with major emphasis on the jerks. I've said it before, Nigeria is most known for its scams. More than any other country. Every day I get offers for $6-$15 million "if I would send then my banking information" Nigeria has been known as the scam capital of the world for many years. I have met a few high ranking "chiefs" (they are very tribal" and they are all full of crap. Sorry Dameon, sorry to see a fellow New Yorker get burned, but I told you so. A fool and his money are quickly parted. As far as you Roaner. my question still is if you are married and you are writing these ladies, what makes you any different than the scammers you talk about here. I got a Poignant letter from a magnificent lady I am writing to who is half my age and knows it. I asked for her local documents which she did send immediately and then asked what prompted me to ask after I sent her money for translation (on my insistance , not hers) Which is the gentlemanly thing to do. Then she expounded on what happens on the other side. Men come, who are married, have sex with the girls and then leave and never write again. Or they are married and just playing games and the girls pay for the translations for nothing.....hey nice going guys. You do know that with all the ladies on this list it amounts to 1 one millionth of 1% of the young ladies in all these countries, but you guys have them all pegged as scammers. Amazing. But you Roamer, you are the worst type of scammer, You write letters which they pay to translate and your intentions are just game playing. You are a low life scammer of the 1st degree. You are a hypocrite. You do exactly what they do but you think that becasue it is you, it doesn't count. You are an ass. And you really must have a terrific marriage when you write these ladies, some of whom are looking for a good life with a good man and then tell your wife about it. DOes that give you the jollies? DO you fantisize when you amke love with your wife? You are a sick mother man. Granted there are scammers, but they are on both sides of the pond. Next time you call a girl a scammer, look in the mirror and as it says in the bible, let he who has not sinned cast the first stone. Seems to me that very few stones would be thrown from this group. The worst thing is that younger guys who really are interested and have serious intent are turned off by your mostly unfounded accusations. As far as accepting a less pretty lady. Everyone has their own taste and things that turn them on, Yes looks are very superficial but even the worst looking ones can be asll screwed up as well and if I am going shopping, which is what this is I am going to lean towards someone whose looks and figure will excite me when I wake up next to her in the morning, not someonoe whose looks will scare the crap out of me. Trust me, that is all bull. Everyone ha their own taste and if you think that you can handle a pretty lady then by all means try. I get letters form women who dress to the hilt, take fabulous photos and then by the third photo the real her comes out but by then I have an idea what she is about.It is called good marketing and my company is in 40 countries throughout the world. We are major marketers and women are learning to use what they have to sell themselves to us. I admire that as a man and as a businessman
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Comment from roamer

Hey Dave, I say Ditto with Dameon, and he's not the only snake in the grass here!!!!
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Comment from Dameon

Dave - no one wants anyone to settle because that ends in divorce. And if you can find a real relationship with someone 15 - 20 years your junior, then all the power to you. Believe me, I have been accused of cradle-robbing. But then, I think I am just a snake in the grass. I am not online to find a wife in another country. I just like f'n around with scammers. My comments were not to you directly. I have a feeling that you are not going to get scammed. But my comments do apply to most others that have been scammed. I truly do suggest that if you travel to East Europe, that you follow my advice and take care of all your own reservations. Stay in a hotel that you book or an apartment that you have secured through an agency. Don't let her find you the apartment. I do wish you all the luck in the world. And as for children and women over 30, unless you are living in Africa, the mortality rate for new births is very good. I hope you find and have a happy and healthy family. As for me, as the Doors said: "Show me the way to the next little girl and the next whiskey" bar
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Comment from Dave

Dameon – Thanks for you input and tips. I’m looking for someone around 25 to 30 for biological reasons. I really would like to have kids. The problem with women over 30 is the chances of something going wrong with the pregnancy drastically increases. As I mentioned I’m 41. Most women I have dated recently in my area where between that age, 25 to 30. So, for me it’s not unreasonable. I had a recent relationship, which ended last January, the woman actually just turned 21. I didn’t plan it like that. We just got to know each other and we had a lot in common and enjoyed each others company. The relationship ended because she just had a baby and she got back together with her baby’s father which was the best for her and the baby. I ended my other relationships over the last couple years because they where career women and/or didn’t have the traditional values I’m looking for. I would like to have a relationship like my parents. That’s why I thought I would look outside the country, the U.S. As for your last comment, I have a list of criteria I’m looking for in a woman, not just looks. I’m not that shallow. But, there must be chemistry, we can’t help what we’re physically attracted too. And, I’m not willing to settle.
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Comment from Dameon

My heart goes pitter patter when ever I see that smile. As for everyone else who is really trying to meet someone from another country, please look at yourself first and know what it is that you are seeking. Instead of looking for a model, perhaps you should look for a life partner.
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Comment from Big Sister

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Comment from A happier Roamer

Thank you Sis, I'm sorry that I didn't include you with my comment to Dave....I do consider you bright and intelligent too.....I'm all better this week as you all can see....Thank you for your concern....
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Comment from Big Sister

Very pleasant to read some serious words from you, guys. Roamer, cheer up! All is going to be fine!
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Comment from Dameon

Now this is some in-depth conversation. Dave, do not hesitate, go to the Ukraine. East Europe is amazing. But make sure you make all your own reservations. We have started to read more and more about scams where a guy actually does travel to meet the woman in her city and he is scammed anyway. You have to make sure you are aware of your surroundings and not be totally dependent on the woman. Some of what you said about age difference is true. I believe Eastern Europeans and South Americans do lean more towards a traditional relationship where a man is expected to care for her and family. So a 10 year difference with a Western man is not a problem or out of the ordinary. As for trying to hook up with women who are 20 years younger, then you have some serious thinking to do. It is not lasting. That is just an ego thing and believe me, I know about that! I really do wish all you guys well in your search for love and affection. Just make sure that you do not allow a pretty face to blind your common sense.
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Comment from roamer in the sun

Dear Dave, it was with great pleasure that I read your comment....It seems to me that you are quite knowledgeable about other "peoples" customs, and that is a good thing...There are way too many people who know absolutely nothing about all of the idiosyncracies of different cultures, and even come close to really understanding them.....You have hit the nail on the head, sir...You know how many times that something is just staring us right in the face, and we never see it...Well, I guess that we need to take off our blinders every now and again to expand our hindsight.....Oh, by the way I'm from Florida, and gonna be 51 this Friday.....A thing that really rings true with what you said was about some women from other cultures,marrying young....Well that is really true...Hispanics wed very early, also a lot of the asian people do the same...We are taught that its like "Taboo" here in the states to do so....I think that it goes back to the days of the puritans and pilgrams, for that way of thinking....Hell, I'm 10 years older than my wife, and when we married 16 years ago she already had 3 children, so they aren't my blood, but I love them just the same.....Any way I'm glad that there is one more person on this site that has a good degree of intelligence, like Dameon,Freddyboy,Mike,Wombat,Russian Lady,and a handful of others...I feel that it's people like us, who can help the most with slowing down these scammers....Have a great day,sir...P.S., A.O.B. is also my favorite site...
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Comment from Dave

Roamer – I received so much email from Army of Brides, around 10 per day, from women all different ages from 18 to my age 41 and older. There sure are some beautiful women who seem down to earth on that site, isn’t there! Anyway, I was thinking the same as you. There must be something going on here. I’ve been writing several women for a few months now usually every week or two when I have time. I’m very busy running my business and it takes a lot of time and effort to write a well thought out letter. But, so far no one has asked me for money and they answer all my questions. None of my friends have email. Two of them are almost fluent in English but aren’t that comfortable reading or writing English. The one I’ve known the longest asked me to call her when I received her last letter last week. So, I remain guarded but optimistic. I’m now thinking, I might have to actually visit the Ukraine soon to meet her and hang out. Are you an American Roamer? I am, I think America is a very age conscience and youth oriented society. But then, American men, who make good money can still land a younger woman. I think American women are attracted to money, power, and intelligence. I believe women are wired that way in general. My cousin goes to Brazil often, a couple times a year, he is a couple years older than me. He says it’s the same there. As he says, he doesn’t even deal with any women over 25. Like me, he looks really good for his age though. I was listening to a men’s radio show, Tom Likus, out of Los Angeles. One of last week’s topics was on online dating. American men dealing with foreign women they meet online. One guy just returned from Colombia. He was 41 and visiting several women between 21 and 25. He said he had sex with them too. He said he has narrowed it down to one women he wants to get serious with. So, I don’t know maybe it’s the real deal. Just remember our motto. NEVER SEND MONEY TO SOMEONE YOU DON’T KNOW! Have you noticed the explanation in the information section of AoB about the age difference? I cut and pasted it.... “Why do Russian woman search for foreign husband? What age difference would you say is acceptable between foreign men and Russian women? Traditionally, in Ukraine and Russian people get married in young age, and usually the age of partners approximately the same, with 1-2 year difference. But if we talk about international marriages and age difference between foreign men and Russian women we should take into consideration several factors. First of all, men in the West since young age concentrate on the career, and only after 30 they start thinking seriously about marriage and family. Many foreign men of 35-45 say they have never been married and decided to create a family, when in Russia by this age men have been married and divorced (some several times) or live in marriage, and have children of 15-20 years old. So, the first factor why Russian girls of 20-25 say they would be interested in men of 35-45 is their understanding that in the West younger men are not ready for creating a family. Then, a Russian woman would move to a foreign country, where the only person she would rely on and be supported by will be her husband. So, Russian women expect more stability, support, care from older men, more experienced and those who know what women want. The third factor would be the following: foreign men live active and healthy life - they visit gym regularly, mostly do not have bad habits as alcohol, smoking and using drugs, and take care of themselves. So, at the age of 45 they look, feel and act like Russian men look at 30. At the same time Russian women get serious and mature earlier than women in the West - their life is harder, they have to start working at early age, and often a girl of 18-19 studies and works the same time to pay for her studies and living (but, of course, there are infantile women at the age of 30 even...). Add to all said factors of Russian psychology: a woman should be married, not married woman is considered inferior to a married woman (even if the marriage of the latest is not happy); and social studies showing that in Russia/Ukraine there are more women than men. As a conclusion, Russian women want to get married and they have more chances to find a husband abroad through international marriage agency than in their native city; any age difference would be ok if the man feels he would justify expectations of the woman towards him.”
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Comment from Wombat

A word to the wise,Roamer...remember what you and Sam used to do for fun pre-kids and quietly organise something like that again.If my experience is anything to go by, this bitching business is a cry for attention. It's up to you to think if it's worth it though.Sorry for the psych' bit Roamer...but I think that I can see certain "signs" that I can recall.
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Comment from roamer in the sun

Yeah I sounded like a Whiner last week, didn't I ??I guess that it was that time of the month....I'm allright now though... Every Monday I browse through the New additions section of army of brides, and it never ceases to amaze me, that most are the most beautiful women that you'll see.....Second thing I have noticed is that if they are under 23, that most are looking for older men, and they specifically ask for older guys....Right there tells me "SCAMMER", one gal 21yrs old and has 2 kids was prego at 15.....She just wants out at any cost to us men......It's fun reading their profiles though...But I still go for the older ones.......I went bowling Saturday night for the first time in 30 yrs.,with my daughter and her boyfriend and with my sons girl....Had alot of fun, something Samantha can't do....Every time we go out she has to bitch about something, so you should have heard her go on and on yesterday,until my daughter set her straight.....Anyway I'm all good now!!!
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Comment from Mike

Hey Roamer....how are things on the home front?
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Comment from roamer

Dameon, I see that she is well aquainted with the pole dancing routine.......She is just screaming please rescue me!!!!!Yeah Right!!!!You should have sent her a weeks supply of lollipops....
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Comment from Dameon

I keeep sending this one to Western Union with a different number. I was in a mood Wombat and I just had to play a bit with this one. they were just so pathetic. And I am using my famous Italian last name. You know the one. They are so f'n stupid. Please everyone, stop sending money to stupid people. If they continue taking your money, they will only breed and create more brain damaged people.
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Comment from freddyboy

Way to go Dameon, this does bring a smirk to my face. As you most likely could tell right from the get-go this has to be one of the worst scams in history, perhaps just a beginner. I hope you explained about the bridge, just wouldn't be cricket you know old buddy if this dummy wasn't informed about the pond inbetween us and Nigeria. You know level playing field and all that rot. Right then, stiff upper lip old man cheerio. I think the postings today should all be in a special class of their own. Maybe super dumb day or something.
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Comment from John

Well she is he is David James well maybe not I give up....Dameon havent you heard of this bridge before it is called the Siberean land bridge opps!!!! that melted a few years ago....They keep getting funnier dont they.....
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Comment from Mike

Oh, hell, Wombat. I'd have chatted with her if only to pull her/his chain a little. I love it when they get so pissed off they start spewing every cuss word in the vocabulary.
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Comment from Wombat

I am surprised that you even chatted with her Dameon,mate, given your many stayements about Nigeria...must have been a slow day for you I guess..he he :)
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Comment from Anonymous

This is really a big laugh, what do these SOBs think? This must be the biggest bloody Nigerian of them all.
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